"Porting for donations"...a little selfish?

[Lojik]

Play a port class- once you port a few level 60's around who only tip 5-10p, you'll understand why most porters are permanently anon/roleplay. Required donation of 25p....you're greedy. Or...

Somenooborcheapsk8 tells you "Hi can i get a port and evac to EJ for CR?"
You tell Somenooborcheapsk8 "Sorry I am busy atm."
Somenooborcheapsk8 tells you "WTF man you can't take 1 min of your time to come port me?"

[Jingleson]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Play a port class- once you port a few level 60's around who only tip 5-10p, you'll understand why most porters are permanently anon/roleplay. Required donation of 25p....you're greedy. Or...

Somenooborcheapsk8 tells you "Hi can i get a port and evac to EJ for CR?"
You tell Somenooborcheapsk8 "Sorry I am busy atm."
Somenooborcheapsk8 tells you "WTF man you can't take 1 min of your time to come port me?"

Okay, most are anon/roleplay, understandable considering how often some of them get pestered for services. But DEMANDING a donation for their services? It's not a donation if it's mandatory, then it's just a fee.

[susvain0362]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, most are anon/roleplay, understandable considering how often some of them get pestered for services. But DEMANDING a donation for their services? It's not a donation if it's mandatory, then it's just a fee.

Really? Really? REALLY? You gonna get humg up and upset about the wordage used? Thats sad. Cmon now. Who gives a rats dick if they say porting for a fee or porting for donations. Its the same thing, you know what they mean.

Man...people like you, OP, how do you actually have the desire or the will to make a thread like this? Dont you just feel...like... A bozo, for making this thread. Just live your life pal. You gotta learn to be a cooler human being pal

[Jingleson]

Originally Posted by susvain0362 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really? Really? REALLY? You gonna get humg up and upset about the wordage used? Thats sad. Cmon now. Who gives a rats dick if they say porting for a fee or porting for donations. Its the same thing, you know what they mean.

Man...people like you, OP, how do you actually have the desire or the will to make a thread like this? Dont you just feel...like... A bozo, for making this thread. Just live your life pal. You gotta learn to be a cooler human being pal

I call out bullshit when I see it.

[susvain0362]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I call out bullshit when I see it.

What exaclty is the bullshit? The guy who is letting you know before hand he is charging for ports...its your decision to buy his port or not.

Do you you know how fun it is to port people around all time for free?

[Jingleson]

Originally Posted by susvain0362 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exaclty is the bullshit? The guy who is letting you know before hand he is charging for ports...its your decision to buy his port or not.

Do you you know how fun it is to port people around all time for free?

No, the guy who disguises his porting fees as donations. Donations = optional, not automatically hold out your hand for cash or no port.

[Lithose]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I call out bullshit when I see it.

You're attempting to get into a semantics debate over a word but missing the structure of the sentence. A donation is a gift, or contribution. It's some application of wealth to a person, cause or institution--wealth as measured by time, goods or money. In this case, it's money.

So the word "donation" itself could mean gift, which is voluntary. However, the statement clearly says "Porting FOR donation". That preposition means that the verb (Porting) will ONLY be done because of the noun (Donation). The entire structure of this statement is a phrase denoting that the porter's actions are a direct result of the donation (Or an implied donation when the service is rendered.)

Your semantic argument is focusing on just the word. Why? Did the porter come up to you and say "Donation" thirty times without any context? No? Then it's not implied that it's optional.

The only thing you could imply that's optional is the amount. Which is why the word "donation" is used, because the amount fluctuates depending on the means of the person taking advantage of the service. There are a lot of factors that can affect how much you should pay for a port (Traffic of the port area, level, money, on a CR ect)--requiring a "donation" simply makes it easier for the price to be appropriate depending on the person transported, rather than haggling for every pick up.

The fact is, donations have been used by institutions for 500+ years as a way to ask for payment on a service that can't be fixed due to a myriad number of reasons.

[susvain0362]

Originally Posted by Lithose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're attempting to get into a semantics debate over a word but missing the structure of the sentence. A donation is a gift, or contribution. It's some application of wealth to a person, cause or institution--wealth as measured by time, goods or money. In this case, it's money.

So the word "donation" itself could mean gift, which is voluntary. However, the statement clearly says "Porting FOR donation". That preposition means that the verb (Porting) will ONLY be done because of the noun (Donation). The entire structure of this statement is a phrase denoting that the porter's actions are a direct result of the donation (Or an implied donation when the service is rendered.)

Your semantic argument is focusing on just the word. Why? Did the porter come up to you and say "Donation" thirty times without any context? No? Then it's not implied that it's optional.

The only thing you could imply that's optional is the amount. Which is why the word "donation" is used, because the amount fluctuates depending on the means of the person taking advantage of the service. There are a lot of factors that can affect how much you should pay for a port (Traffic of the port area, level, money, on a CR ect)--requiring a "donation" simply makes it easier for the price to be appropriate depending on the person transported, rather than haggling for every pick up.

The fact is, donations have been used by institutions for 500+ years as a way to ask for payment on a service that can't be fixed due to a myriad number of reasons.

Thank you for saying what everyone was thinking. You did it very well done

[justin2090]

Originally Posted by Lithose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the word "donation" itself could mean gift, which is voluntary. However, the statement clearly says "Porting FOR donation". That preposition means that the verb (Porting) will ONLY be done because of the noun (Donation). The entire structure of this statement is a phrase denoting that the porter's actions are a direct result of the donation (Or an implied donation when the service is rendered.)

And this statement pretty much ends the discussion.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Play a port class- once you port a few level 60's around who only tip 5-10p, you'll understand why most porters are permanently anon/roleplay. Required donation of 25p....you're greedy. Or...

Somenooborcheapsk8 tells you "Hi can i get a port and evac to EJ for CR?"
You tell Somenooborcheapsk8 "Sorry I am busy atm."
Somenooborcheapsk8 tells you "WTF man you can't take 1 min of your time to come port me?"

Wow, it would never occur to me to ever pay 5 or 10 plat for a port. Maybe as a newb and if I was really broke, but not at level 60. That shit's just rude.