Guild Leader?

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People keep talking about this game like it's a lot more complicated and prestigious than it is. One heroic WoW raid is more difficult than all of the Velious and Kunark content combined. I wouldn't trust 98% of this server to be in my 10 man WoW heroic guild when I was going WoW hard [finally burned out after doing the last raid content before expac.]

Wow is hard for different reasons then EQ. EQ was hard because of the orginzation and the unknown factors, or not knowing the fights and having no access to know them. You are playing wow as stuff is released or somewhat released and it is hard because of the personal click and movement factor. Wow is harder as an individual but not harder as a guild or group then the original EQ was.

Wow is hard like starcraft is hard. EQ is hard like playing dnd in someones house is.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow is harder as an individual but not harder as a guild or group then the original EQ was.

Wow is hard like starcraft is hard. EQ is hard like playing dnd in someones house is.

yup, we got a retard in the thread.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no skill to being a guild leader on red99. There's a finite number of players, and everyone knows if they want loot they only have one option. People know that the key to getting loot is having as many people together in the same guild as possible. Nizzar's skill is as a raid leader. When it comes to "guild" leading, there's basically no membership say, no charter, no true app voting process, no guild bank accountability, etc. But people put up with it all because that's where you get loot. It's a monopoly, you don't like your comcast cable? Well get fucked then cuz we're the only show in town. Oh, you want to make your own cable company? Cool, good luck with that because we hold all the cable line permits etc., and will blackmail the government to prevent you from competing. You can't boycott gas stations if you want to drive, and you can't boycott Nihilum if you want loot.

But for the same reasons your posted above it is is hard to maintain a core unlike most servers. it is also a constant influx of new people to train and gear. It is hard to keep people motivated until most other servers.

Unlike a lot of leaders Nizzar is very level headed and understand that he needs to worry about HIS guild and not other guilds.

[heartbrand]

It's hard to keep people motivated because there's no incentive provided to stay motivated in Nihilum. It's a guild built around loot first. There's a reason there's so many veterans on the sidelines. Once you get geared up there's zero incentive provided to continue to play. You can "main change" but we see how that's fared so far for Thrilla and Raze. If, instead, the guild rewarded those who do the most such as Thrilla & Raze and others, it wouldn't need to recruit 500 people to keep replacing it's depleted ranks because you would be keeping your core engaged and interested and logging in. Obviously, a guild always needs to recruit to some extent to replenish those who quit, and to add skilled players, no one is going to dispute that, but at the same time if it were to cater more to the core players and allow them to be more involved, not charge someone like Arzak 20k for a trak BP, etc., it would see overall less burn out. That isn't meant to be some sort of scathing attack or calling Nihilum a shit guild, to be quite honest it's fine, it's just my opinion if it were to focus a little bit more on those who built it, it wouldn't need to always be looking to bring in so many new faces.

[Stasis01]

Charging 20k for a Trak BP funneled into runed mithril tunics is a good system to me, if I was Nizzar.

[Stasis01]

PS Heartbrand's right BTW, most people dislike Nihilum for what they do - not on a personal level, but they join them anyways because it's their only chance to max out their toons.

CAN"T BLAME THEM HEH HEH - just make sure you do the right thing and stop logging on or leave once your maxed pals.

[Dacuk]

imo three minimum requirements to be a good guild leader:

1) significant amount of playtime (> 6 hours a day, 6+ days a week)
2) bringing knowledge of the game to the table (either on your own, or a close pal)
3) willingness to invest in others

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unlike a lot of leaders Nizzar is very level headed

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[Andis]

rofl eldermoran strike again!

[Cid]

Being successful and being good are two different things. Anyone with enough time and determination can be successful as a guild leader, yet still be the biggest douche on the server.
Through my time in EQ I have experienced several different types of leaders and even been one myself. The good ones are the humble ones that are willing to help people. When I was in that position I spent 90% of my time helping people do whatever they needed and I never asked anyone to do something that I wasn't willing to do myself twice.
It's very difficult to be like that, but those are the people who inspire loyalty and make you want to follow them and not pixels.

To be the "best" you can't be a good person. You make a choice pixels and integrity and since the only consequences are being bitched about on a forum like this, most people choose pixels. The other path is infinitely harder but it has its own rewards.