Classic SOE Overnerf - Page 15

PhelanKA · #**141** 08-09-2010, 01:18 PM

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I personally think that's because solo xp is broken. I have no documentation of this due to Verant keeping how XP worked behind the scenes, but my own personal recollection of Classic Live was that while yes, a strong solo class (a necro or druid) could keep up with a good group for a while, but they would start to lose out when the downtime started to hit. A good group would kill almost constantly, while the solo guy would kill 4-8 or something then have to med up, over time this lead to the good group out pacing the solo guy.

If you've got much downtime as a necro you're doing it wrong.

Lucrio40 · #**142** 08-09-2010, 03:08 PM

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If you've got much downtime as a necro you're doing it wrong.

I never said it would be a lot of down time for any class. Good Necro's are probably the only class I remember being able to out pace even a good group if they were given the mobs to actually kill. This was another issue for the solo player, A lot of the good zones to kite in only had a limited number of mobs, this would also constitute downtime.

Enderenter · #**143** 08-09-2010, 04:18 PM

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I never said it would be a lot of down time for any class. Good Necro's are probably the only class I remember being able to out pace even a good group if they were given the mobs to actually kill. This was another issue for the solo player, A lot of the good zones to kite in only had a limited number of mobs, this would also constitute downtime.

I don't know about that. I guess it really depends on what level we're talking about, but there are several classes in classic eq that could (in my opinion) easily out-xp groups. I remember full group xp being ridiculously slow. Sitting in Oasis in a full group, chain pulling yellows non-stop for 2 hours, and you've gained 2 yellows (at level 15). I remember being in Highkeep on live and grinding for 3 hours where 1 death sets you back an hour because of how slow the XP is - pulling mobs nonstop until there are none left. Granted, Oasis and Highkeep were my worst classic EQ memories of full group XP (Dreadlands came later... eww).

Lazortag · #**144** 08-09-2010, 08:11 PM

Good luck out-exping any group if you're solo. What happens if you go linkdead while pulling a sand giant? I give about 15 seconds before you're mercilessly slaughtered. There are few solo spots that are forgiving to people who don't have perfect internet connections.

Nedala · #**145** 08-10-2010, 09:15 AM

I brought this up already once, but i was talked down.

But seriously i getting faster exp on my lvl 50 druid in groups (yes i do exp from time to time because i eat 0% rezzes on raids sometime) than on my lvl 24 enchanter, should it really be like that?

Reiker · #**146** 08-10-2010, 09:21 AM

Level 50 is tiny so yeah, sure.

Aarone · #**147** 08-10-2010, 10:57 AM

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If you've got much downtime as a necro you're doing it wrong.

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Lagaidh · #**148** 08-10-2010, 01:24 PM

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Except for the ones that did. See: Blood of the Spider vs, The Sleeper.

I remember that. They were the supreme guild of the Rathe. The schadenfreude on that server the day the guild was disbanded was served on plates with SoLo cups of punch.

I still remember Aegis of BoTS. I was a L20ish pally when I met him, duo'ing with my good buddy Toraque who was a similar level HEF RNG. We were on the orc highway when Aegis came running by in a full suit of Valorium with his Soulfire. He buffed us and ran off.

I remember being in awe of the L50 paladin.

They reformed as Brotherhood of the Spider.

Zefah · #**149** 08-10-2010, 03:52 PM

I just started playing, and the exp rate does seem to be a lot lower than it was even when I first started playing EQ Live in 1999. It probably shouldn't take an hour of constant solo grinding in West Freeport, with minimal downtime, to get from level 2 to 3 as a Dark Elf Enchanter.

That's fine, though. I'll learn to adapt, but i don't think the exp rates were this bad back in old EQ. I seem to remember the first 6 levels or so going very quickly.

JayDee · #**150** 08-10-2010, 04:23 PM

I like the new exp rate. I think it's pretty damn close to live tbh. I remember grinding solb for like days to get past level 45.

That definitely wasn't the case before on p99. I had seen people go from level 1 on monday to 50 by the weekend without much PL'ing involved.

It now means something to be 50 much like live. Kudos to devs for fixing this.