Classic mechanic discussion: fast weapon/white damage aggro

[koros]

Originally Posted by Borador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

right about what? He simply showed the dps of the weapons. Obviously that is a factor in hate generation. But, a main reason the twig was busted was because of its hate generation from the low delay. This was shown when it was nerfed to offhand only yet still generated a lot of hate. The only reason they didn't remove it retroactively is it wasn't also providing massive DPS.

As far as its damage. I wouldn't call nearly 40% increase on the epic from a level 20 something mob "slight".

The formula for hate generation is more along the lines of ((weapon damage + damage bonus)/delay). That's what he was saying.

The difference in DAMAGE vs epic at level 60 is ~4.5%, (((weapon damage x 2) + damage bonus)/delay) but that's also about the same damage a jade mace does. It's good, but it's not even close to 40%

[Borador]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The formula for hate generation is more along the lines of ((weapon damage + damage bonus)/delay). That's what he was saying.

The difference in DAMAGE vs epic at level 60 is ~4.5%, (((weapon damage x 2) + damage bonus)/delay) but that's also about the same damage a jade mace does. It's good, but it's not even close to 40%

Ya, you are correct. My hate damage numbers are getting mixed up. Still it was a broken damage weapon at the time, people weren't running around with epics everywhere.

Also, like Norton I'm mostly going off the classic feel. Ya, you could hold aggro with rusty daggers, play with "better" players, or just rely on price. But, that isn't how it was, auto attacks provided much more than they appear to be.