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Old 09-13-2013, 11:55 AM
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Why not just make all the MQable shit tradeable already so people don't get scammed? They already get sold just the same, the only thing that changes is people can't get hosed/bugged out of items.

I could care less if a level 2 has ragebringer personally, there are plenty of really good droppable daggers that can be had for well under 45k it's not like ragebringer makes that big if a difference compared to those 1-46. I think it's a joke some of you take this hard stance on epics but probably have alts rolling around in fungi tunics and RBB/CoFs. Very arbitrary line you are drawing here.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:16 PM
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Very arbitrary line you are drawing here.
the line between classic and not-classic is very clear in most circumstances. most of the decisions made here are far from arbitrary.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:21 PM
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Why not just make all the MQable shit tradeable already so people don't get scammed? They already get sold just the same, the only thing that changes is people can't get hosed/bugged out of items.

I could care less if a level 2 has ragebringer personally, there are plenty of really good droppable daggers that can be had for well under 45k it's not like ragebringer makes that big if a difference compared to those 1-46. I think it's a joke some of you take this hard stance on epics but probably have alts rolling around in fungi tunics and RBB/CoFs. Very arbitrary line you are drawing here.
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Not a big difference? The next best thing that you could reasonably twink with is a serpents tooth 13/27 with a bit of str. Backtab damage scales significantly off weapon damage. 40% haste, 40 atk, 20 str, massive resists, 100hp. Its a huge difference.

I am with you on the who cares part though...

Aside from a fungi (or possibly rubi bp or iksar bp) ragebringer is probably the best single twink item you can get.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:22 PM
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Why not just make all the MQable shit tradeable already so people don't get scammed? They already get sold just the same, the only thing that changes is people can't get hosed/bugged out of items.

I could care less if a level 2 has ragebringer personally, there are plenty of really good droppable daggers that can be had for well under 45k it's not like ragebringer makes that big if a difference compared to those 1-46. I think it's a joke some of you take this hard stance on epics but probably have alts rolling around in fungi tunics and RBB/CoFs. Very arbitrary line you are drawing here.
Wow.

Lol.


I'll limit my comments to one thing though. If you don't think RB is MILES ahead of piercers like SCD or rapier of oriin... then you've obviously never used a RB. RB is absolute godmode.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:40 PM
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It's not close. There's a reason rogue twinks are so popular. Easy quest for a best in slot primary and 40% haste. With double wu fists, avatar, VoG, and a disc I MIGHT out parse a mediocre rogue. It's gross how much dps they do.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:50 PM
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There is only a couple ways to get around this.

Only do an MQ with someone who is known and trusted. Ask who their main is, and then ask them to log the main on and prove it. Even this may not be enough.

Go through an escrow
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:27 PM
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Wow.

Lol.


I'll limit my comments to one thing though. If you don't think RB is MILES ahead of piercers like SCD or rapier of oriin... then you've obviously never used a RB. RB is absolute godmode.
I'm not saying it isn't awesome. I'm just saying you can already faceroll content with the next best thing and nobody complains about a twink rogue with a fungi/RBB and some 13/26 dagger. That is why I call the line arbitrary, you think it's fine to use a drop off Trakanon for example (let's say a kunark class BP) which is harder than doing the ragebringer quest, just because it's droppable?

There just seems to be this sentiment among some people that drops from one 55+ raid is ok but drops from another isn't just because it's called an epic? Because it's a weapon? Because it's obtained from a quest? I dunno.

I still think MQable crap should just be droppable/tradeable if you're going to allow MQing at all.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:30 PM
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That is why I call the line arbitrary, you think it's fine to use a drop off Trakanon for example (let's say a kunark class BP) which is harder than doing the ragebringer quest, just because it's droppable?
no.

just because it's classic.

it's your line that's the arbitrary line.

ours is clear and concise.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:47 PM
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no.

just because it's classic.

it's your line that's the arbitrary line.

ours is clear and concise.
Fair enough. So you'd be cool if there was a 16/25 dagger that was droppable and someone was twinked out with it? I guess I was fighting the "it's OP'd" argument but if that's not the argument than I can't really argue with you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of the posts (like the one from Tecmos for example) seemed to directly attack how powerful it was and not anything to do with 46+ being required back in the day.
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