Raiding in P1999 is nothing like raiding in classic.

[gotrocks]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem Solved.

[Nirgon]

Let's be honest this thread boils down to "we're not getting mobs" so its "nothing like classic"

I couldn't disagree more unless you guys were in top raiding guilds on your servers during classic-Velious.

Now.. if you were in the PoP era (most people here I think are)... I can see why not getting Kunark/Velious mobs for you doesn't feel "classic".

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's be honest this thread boils down to "we're not getting mobs" so its "nothing like classic"

I couldn't disagree more unless you guys were in top raiding guilds on your servers during classic-Velious.

Now.. if you were in the PoP era (most people here I think are)... I can see why not getting Kunark/Velious mobs for you doesn't feel "classic".

qft

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alright, in that limited capacity, I'll concede it is an analogy. I won't concede that it's a good one.

I said it was comical and you're arguing it's not. You don't think it's funny to compare someone who sits on their ass at a computer playing a video game to someone who trains for 10+ hours a day?

When you took that screenshot of 1,000,000 plat on your curser, would you say you put more or less work into attaining that than a gold medal sprinter? Or even a bronze medal sprinter? Do you think you felt the same satisfaction as they did? Do you believe you could stand shoulder to shoulder with them and honestly tell yourself that both accomplishments were similar and both means to both ends were similiar?

Like I said before, you aren't staying focused on what started this discussion between us. You keep slipping into this overall comparison that isn't relevant because no one used the analogy that "a p99 raider is as awesome as a gold-medal athlete in every way."

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I said before, you aren't staying focused on what started this discussion between us. You keep slipping into this overall comparison that isn't relevant because no one used the analogy that "a p99 raider is as awesome as a gold-medal athlete in every way."

No, I just said the comparison is comical. Which it is.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I just said the comparison is comical. Which it is.

You only think it is comical because you don't understand what was actually being said.


Tecmos: a candle is like the sun; they both emit light.

Ravager: that's funny! They're nothing alike! One is an enormous sphere of unimaginably hot gas that is in a perpetual state of nuclear fusion, the light of which can be seen trillions of miles away and whose life is measured in billions of years. But a candle is just a little flicker of fire that will burn out in a few hours unless a 5 mph breeze kicks up, in which case it will blow out even sooner!

Tecmos: dude. I didn't say "a candle is exactly like the sun," so why are you talking about how a candle is not exactly like the sun?

Ravager: COMICAL!!! THIS GUY THINKS THE SUN AND A CANDLE ARE THE SAME!!!

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's be honest this thread boils down to "we're not getting mobs" so its "nothing like classic"

I couldn't disagree more unless you guys were in top raiding guilds on your servers during classic-Velious.

Now.. if you were in the PoP era (most people here I think are)... I can see why not getting Kunark/Velious mobs for you doesn't feel "classic".

But on topic, yeah. This.

[Nirgon]

For those of you who aren't able to devote the "on call" and "anything goes" play time to the raiding scene here... (and imagine that! and single, successful PvE server attracting so many greats of old having a godmode competitive raid scene..) I suggest you discover other things that made EQ great. Imagine if there were only 2 or 3 live servers... and all the skilled players were lumped onto them.

For instance? The solo artist challenge. Leveling and succeeding playing an odd race/class combo. Creating a group that regularly clears some odd dungeon and suddenly turning it into a favorite place to group for the community. Being a server personality known for some running gag etc.

I think people who compete in the solo artist challenge and compare notes, contribute to making the server more classic in the bugs section or play in an all Iksar guild are the real winners here. Stop making a leisure activity a job or setting ridiculous expectations and getting frustrated when you can't meet them.

I'd also stop challenging TMO and talking about destroying them. That is absolutely nuts. Try making friends with them, joining xp groups with their ridiculously strong alts (Jeremy runs some AoE chardok on Thursday iirc) and maybe getting into talks about them letting you have a different raid mob every other week.

For instance, despite what anyone in TMO probably says or thinks scattered across members, they are going to be primarily a Giant faction guild... like it or not to start and for quite some time. I'd suggest your guilds trying to be the best dragon faction guild and playing at sane and leisurely hours in Velious. If it's about loot... check out the halls of testing quests or compare dragon faction armor per slot vs kael per slot. Hell, you can be the plane of mischief farm guild too. PoM armor was droppable for several months from Velious release too :P.

If your collective intentions are "we're going to wake the sleeper / start taking every Phara Dar" and destroy TMO/the server... you need to get your head examined. You (collectively) in 99.9% of cases on live did not have 3-4 phara dar loots, you don't *deserve* them and the game *is* fun without them... if you don't play it like a meth addicted pixel head.

Hard concepts!

[Strifer]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being a server personality

If I had more time, I'd love to be actually raiding and stuff other than trolling RnF. I can't though so this works.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You only think it is comical because you don't understand what was actually being said.


Tecmos: a candle is like the sun; they both emit light.

Ravager: that's funny! They're nothing alike! One is an enormous sphere of unimaginably hot gas that is in a perpetual state of nuclear fusion, the light of which can be seen trillions of miles away and whose life is measured in billions of years. But a candle is just a little flicker of fire that will burn out in a few hours unless a 5 mph breeze kicks up, in which case it will blow out even sooner!

Tecmos: dude. I didn't say "a candle is exactly like the sun," so why are you talking about how a candle is not exactly like the sun?

Ravager: COMICAL!!! THIS GUY THINKS THE SUN AND A CANDLE ARE THE SAME!!!

I think it's comical because I know exactly what is being said. The analogy compares the dedication of a P99 raider to the dedication of an olympian. To say that the dedication to drop everything your doing at any given moment in the day to play a video game is the same as the dedication it takes to be the best in a real sport of any sort is just plain stupid.

Besides, what's it to you what I find funny?