Raiding in P1999 is nothing like raiding in classic.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The bolded part is why the analogy doesn't work. The only thing similar to each other in this example is the amount of time put in. Olympians put in more time still and they're not sitting on their asses playing a video game doing it.

Dude. Go read the dictionary defintion of analogy: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/analogy

similarity, especially in a limited scope

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude. Go read the dictionary defintion of analogy: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/analogy

similarity, especially in a limited scope

Alright, in that limited capacity, I'll concede it is an analogy. I won't concede that it's a good one.

I said it was comical and you're arguing it's not. You don't think it's funny to compare someone who sits on their ass at a computer playing a video game to someone who trains for 10+ hours a day?

When you took that screenshot of 1,000,000 plat on your curser, would you say you put more or less work into attaining that than a gold medal sprinter? Or even a bronze medal sprinter? Do you think you felt the same satisfaction as they did? Do you believe you could stand shoulder to shoulder with them and honestly tell yourself that both accomplishments were similar and both means to both ends were similiar?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alright, in that limited capacity, I'll concede it is an analogy. I won't concede that it's a good one.

I said it was comical and you're arguing it's not. You don't think it's funny to compare someone who sits on their ass at a computer playing a video game to someone who trains for 10+ hours a day?

When you took that screenshot of 1,000,000 plat on your curser, would you say you put more or less work into attaining that than a gold medal sprinter? Or even a bronze medal sprinter? Do you think you felt the same satisfaction as they did? Do you believe you could stand shoulder to shoulder with them and honestly tell yourself that both accomplishments were similar and both means to both ends were similiar?

Like I said before, you aren't staying focused on what started this discussion between us. You keep slipping into this overall comparison that isn't relevant because no one used the analogy that "a p99 raider is as awesome as a gold-medal athlete in every way."

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I said before, you aren't staying focused on what started this discussion between us. You keep slipping into this overall comparison that isn't relevant because no one used the analogy that "a p99 raider is as awesome as a gold-medal athlete in every way."

No, I just said the comparison is comical. Which it is.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I just said the comparison is comical. Which it is.

You only think it is comical because you don't understand what was actually being said.


Tecmos: a candle is like the sun; they both emit light.

Ravager: that's funny! They're nothing alike! One is an enormous sphere of unimaginably hot gas that is in a perpetual state of nuclear fusion, the light of which can be seen trillions of miles away and whose life is measured in billions of years. But a candle is just a little flicker of fire that will burn out in a few hours unless a 5 mph breeze kicks up, in which case it will blow out even sooner!

Tecmos: dude. I didn't say "a candle is exactly like the sun," so why are you talking about how a candle is not exactly like the sun?

Ravager: COMICAL!!! THIS GUY THINKS THE SUN AND A CANDLE ARE THE SAME!!!

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You only think it is comical because you don't understand what was actually being said.


Tecmos: a candle is like the sun; they both emit light.

Ravager: that's funny! They're nothing alike! One is an enormous sphere of unimaginably hot gas that is in a perpetual state of nuclear fusion, the light of which can be seen trillions of miles away and whose life is measured in billions of years. But a candle is just a little flicker of fire that will burn out in a few hours unless a 5 mph breeze kicks up, in which case it will blow out even sooner!

Tecmos: dude. I didn't say "a candle is exactly like the sun," so why are you talking about how a candle is not exactly like the sun?

Ravager: COMICAL!!! THIS GUY THINKS THE SUN AND A CANDLE ARE THE SAME!!!

I think it's comical because I know exactly what is being said. The analogy compares the dedication of a P99 raider to the dedication of an olympian. To say that the dedication to drop everything your doing at any given moment in the day to play a video game is the same as the dedication it takes to be the best in a real sport of any sort is just plain stupid.

Besides, what's it to you what I find funny?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's comical because I know exactly what is being said. The analogy compares the dedication of a P99 raider to the dedication of an olympian. To say that the dedication to drop everything your doing at any given moment in the day to play a video game is the same as the dedication it takes to be the best in a real sport of any sort is just plain stupid.

You just don't get it dude.

Comparing two things =/= saying two things are the exact same. Analogizing two things =/= saying two things are the exact same. Comparing/analogizing is calling attention to the similarities between things that may otherwise be very different.

Originally Posted by W8Gamer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would you call the Olympian that works out for an hour more than the rest of the competition every day greedy or immoral? He went the extra mile.

. . .

One could argue that's what TMO or any top guild is doing. They are going that extra mile to achieve their goal.

He isn't saying that the work TMO does to kill stuff is as difficult/challenging/taxing/meaningful as the work an olympian does to win a medal. He is saying that just like an Olympian who works harder than his competition wins the gold, so too is TMO working harder than its competition and therefore getting to kill the mobs.