Nerf Bard AE Kiting

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if PvP was turned on and I got rooted and killed 10 times, the reward is still so disproportionately awesome for any 1 successful AE kite that ganking me repeatedly wouldn't even be a speedbump in my overall XP. I think you know this and are being intentionally dishonest because AE kiting benefits yourself.

Also, Syft is making the argument that this isn't a fair way of leveling entire groups of people, not just a solo bard. You're severely underestimating how much someone can block you from xping this way on a pvp server.

Take 20 minutes to gather a pull in one of the karanas just to get pelled / snared / rooted or otherwise ganked without getting the xp. Then spend another 10-20 running back naked from HHK / Qeynos / wherever and risk being corpse camped or killed again in pvp. On top of the normal risks you run from PVE.

Breaking bard AE kiting will not stop the devoted from powergaming to level 50 within a week of server coming up.

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, Syft is making the argument that this isn't a fair way of leveling entire groups of people, not just a solo bard. You're severely underestimating how much someone can block you from xping this way on a pvp server.

Take 20 minutes to gather a pull in one of the karanas just to get pelled / snared / rooted or otherwise ganked without getting the xp. Then spend another 10-20 running back naked from HHK / Qeynos / wherever and risk being corpse camped or killed again in pvp. On top of the normal risks you run from PVE.

Breaking bard AE kiting will not stop the devoted from powergaming to level 50 within a week of server coming up.

Bind yourself right outside OT Fort, ding 30-52 in a day, yea sounds legit. Sorry but Swarm kiting is really good enough for a bard to solo to 60 faster than any other class in game.

When this became prevalent on Live they nerfed it, of course 15 years later everybody knows exactly how to do it and most toons on this server hit 60 because of it. On live 80% of the toons weren't bard lvl'd to 60.

Some classic idea's need to be abandoned when they threaten the integrity of the box.

Fast track lvling allows neckbeards to put a strangle hold on a server, not just by outlvling everyone off the jump but by lvling tons of alt's as well.

This impacts the economy as well as Tune's Alt#503 gets gear over someone's main.

[Bardalicious]

If you don't want people taking advantage of 13 year old knowledge then you shouldn't be playing a 13 year old video game, sorry pal.

You still fail to acknowledge the fact that Kunark won't even be available upon release of the new server which severely reduces the effectiveness and viability of AE kiting. You still fail to acknowledge the fact that the people determined to level fast will do so regardless of bard AE kiting. Your problem isn't with bards specifically. It's with people leveling faster than you're comfortable with. And unless they went fully custom and introduced time-based level caps like Stinkum suggested, the shit just isn't going to matter.

You see such a huge impact on Red99 because of two reasons:

1) Overthere and Burning Woods npc density makes for absurd number of xp hits per pull.
2) Server is a fucking ghost town and nobody goes to those zones to do normal xp for the most part anyways, thus zero competition or risk of pvp most days.

Good luck with both of those on a new, pre-expansion pvp box where everyone will be trying to level in the very few zones that you can make AE kiting worthwhile in.

But again, moot point. You think they'll nerf wizard PBAE's and enchanter color stuns to only hit 4 targets at a time as well? I sure don't.