Something Detrimental For PvP Deaths

[Stasis01]

Do you know how many people I made quit with EXP loss, by me I mean Holocaust and the fellas.

[AffEcT]

Did you even read the post?

[nilbog]

I didn't like exp loss and championed the cause of removing it. If this is something players want back, you'll have to convince me of why and I'll re-evaluate it.

Having played on Rallos, I'm on the pro-item loot team.

People that claim to see the future say no one will play with item loot. Despite me not believing them, there are a variety of ways to implement it that we discussed on the stream. People played on other servers than coin-only teams and if possible, we should take the best parts of all of the servers.

Choice of 1 item, droppable. Not primary/secondary/ranged.
In bags? Not in bags? Could also make bagged loot droppable and the primary 8 inventory slots safe areas. Meaning if you sacrificed a bag slot to place an item there, it would be safe from looting. Alternately, you could make the items you're actually wearing safe from looting and inventoried droppables lootable.

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One suggestion I haven't heard was droppable items by type. That circumvents the weapon/armor problem and points specifically cash loot. For those who do eqemu stuff, something like items.itemtype 14,15,17,21,38 and != nodrop. So that's droppable food, drink, gems, potions, pages, runes, etc. Just something extra?

Could make it non-armor, non-weapon pieces in general. Could make it earrings, rings, necklaces only.. on and on. We are not limited to the classic implementations of the original servers.

Originally Posted by AffEcT [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There needs to be something in order to limit bindrushing.

Casters do not respawn with mana.

[AffEcT]

Casters do not respawn with mana.

I am aware of this that but melee can still loot weapons and charge if they are bound close by.
Ill give you a great example. City of Mist.
You can be a epic rogue. Attack a player, get killed. Respawn and loot your weapons and charge the player again. And you can keep doing this until you win or the player leaves.

This is a problem. Kael comes to mind on the vztz box where Rexx had his cleric bound and would respawn get mana and dispell the maintank while we where clearing for the names and stuff.

I am not saying that this is a huge issue but it is a problem in some zones.

[Thakisis_VZ]

On Vallon zek , you were able to loot money.

and hi btw affect.

[AffEcT]

Hey Thak!
Hows it going man [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[AffEcT]

I just came up with a weird idea here.
What if you would have res effect say 10 mins after taking a PvP death.
What if you could loot an PvP item like the Deity coin on Sullon Zek.
And what if you could turn that coin or whatever it could be in to Priest of Discord and that would remove the res effect.

So as long as you have a few kills you are good. Or even make the item lore... :P

[AffEcT]

Kinda like a buy back in dota :P

[Doktoor]

Originally Posted by AffEcT [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just came up with a weird idea here.
What if you would have res effect say 10 mins after taking a PvP death.

Very good idea. 30 minutes would be too much. 10 to 15 would be a great idea.

[Something'Witty]

I would suggest:

Coin loot

PvP death effects (similar to rez)

Very slight xp loss (barely noticeable upon one death, but would add up)

Maybe Item loot - the tradable non-magic in any slot (including bags) might be interesting. Maybe allow players to loot stacks of items or maybe non-lore items. Dunno, haven't given it a lot of thought, but there are a lot of possible options.