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[starguitar33]

Originally Posted by Oompaa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spiroc Lord has nothing to do with the upper isles.

so? Europa is crying that they don't have a sky day.
>They have a sky day.
Europa is crying that they're not allowed to kill any islands higher than spirocs?
>they demonstrated their ability WIPE on NERFED mobs. (The only ones who won in sky yesterday were the mobs. they got to live longer because nobody in Europa could kill them)

Also, what does this have to do with the douchbaggery shown by Europa when they raid sky on someone else's night, or when they expected other guilds to contact them?

Children act like this when their parents tell them no.
kid: Hey mom, can I have a soda?
parent: No(because it'll keep you up all night)!
kid: Fine I'll just STEAL IT.
parent: time for a whipping
kid: ow,ow,oh god ow, ow, ow (sounds like europa needs a spanking)

[HallygukRZ]

Dear community of p99

We would like to clarify our decision on why we as a guild decided to raid PoSky on last Thursday. In the process, we would like to also address some of the accusations thrown our way.

First of all, understand that on this matter, all of the Europa council speaks as one, so attacks against individual officers are moot. Also, we coordinate our way forward with our memberbase so understand that this was a guild decision. It is much to our regret that things have come to this as we consider ourselves to be good people with a code of conduct we always to stick to - no matter how dirty things can get on p99.

As most of our members live in the European timezone our prime raid time starts at 19:00 CET (13:00 EST). We cannot start earlier, because we are a casual guild, all of our members have a life, with jobs and families. With repops in Sky at 8 hours for the lower isles, you do the math: An "AM" slot is no option for us, if the demand from the guild following us is that they have repops at their prime time.

As for the actual situation: Europa had exactly one slot in sky, for isles 1-5, on a 14-day basis, sharing them with Divinity. However, we progressed over the last months and no one was willing to share Sky on a bi-weekly basis with us. Proof? Sky rotation thread here. Although this is the single occassion where we would have time zone advantage, we delayed the decision for 1-2 months to try and find an agreement within the guilds on P99.

We have approached BDA on the matter, and no, we did not state we WILL take their day, we tried to explain to them that we COULD do it, and that we were nevertheless trying to find an agreement with them. The reaction was a) the "generous" offer to raid early enough so they are not affected, and when we declined that, b) the pre-emptive clearing of the lower isles with an early task force to make sure Europa could not get a shot at mobs. This while we didn't even plan to go up there on that day.

After some more weeks here on the sky rotation thread without results, we had a long internal discussion how to proceed. We concluded that our only option to raid upper isles is to do it on a day of our choice, and that informing anyone of a planned raid would most likely lead to the same destructive approach that BDA is doing on fridays. That is why we did not contact Taken beforehand.

Finally, the day we chose has nothing to do with the guild who is on the rotation on that day, it is simply the day that suits us best. With the one exception that we did not want to interfere with Divinity because they have been the only guild that was kind enough to let us have a shot at Sky (within our time limitations).

Please understand that the refusal of sharing any acceptable raid time with Europa (by all guilds on the rotation) has left us with the option of doing Sky when we want to, or skipping Sky content. Ask yourself: What would you have done in our situation?

Personal insults, threats, attempts at sabotage or intimidation are not getting anyone anywhere. Are we sorry? We are genuinely sorry things came to this, but we had no other choice. Will we apologize? No, because we did everything we could to sort this out peacefully but no one cared. Will we negotiate? Absolutely.

We will gladly accept a 14 day rotation for PoSky.

Signed by the <Europa> officers
Asterid, Dagorn, Hallyguk, Powtle, Sebekkha and Sherrypie.

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After some more weeks here on the sky rotation thread without results, we had a long internal discussion how to proceed. We concluded that our only option to raid upper isles is to do it on a day of our choice, and that informing anyone of a planned raid would most likely lead to the same destructive approach that BDA is doing on fridays. That is why we did not contact Taken beforehand.

So never in your lengthy deliberations did you even think to contact Taken directly to try to work out a deal since our Sky day happens to be the most convenient for you? You openly admit to covert operations to screw over our guild for your personal gain. You rightly deserve whatever is coming to you, because you brought it upon yourselves.

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ask yourself: What would you have done in our situation?

I am confident that our leadership would have made an exhaustive effort to contact the appropriate parties and broker some sort of deal if we were in your situation. The fact was not that nobody was willing to work with you, but you were unwilling to put forth the effort to peacefully negotiate for what you wanted. I think you may have been surprised at the results had you simply asked directly.

[-Catherin-]

This is more of the same that I have already heard from other members/officers/council/whatever of Europa.

I also have logs from the same sources admitting that you knowingly did not contact us, knowingly went into sky behind our backs, and knowingly cleared up on our time slot. And knowingly making the decision to not contact us to try to negotiate.

Because in your paranoia you assumed we would not negotiate, and we would make a point to make sure you would not be able to make that clear. You were totally wrong about that. We would have been more than willing. Things may be a bit different now though.


This was not a random decision. This was not targeted at random either. It was premeditated and executed knowing full well what you were doing, and who you were doing it against. And when your "council" was approached, we were met with outright hostility and rudeness. So again we ask why?

You are again being willfully blind to what you don't want to see and what actually happened, and anyone who can read between the lines already sees there is more to this than your statement. So just come out with it already

I don't speak for Taken. But I am pretty sure after these actions there can still be negotiation, but not before restitution

[-Catherin-]

Last post for now.

I'll tell you guys a cool story.

Because of how we do our weekly sky clears, if you had just contacted us you would have been able to do sky Thursday night every single week and not have to be stuck with a 14 day rotating shift.

As a result of your attitudes however, and complete lack of goodwill, you may not even get that now

[khanable]

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and that informing anyone of a planned raid would most likely lead to the same destructive approach that BDA is doing on fridays.

Destructive yet CLEARLY necessary.

[Stinkum]

I dislike Taken, but it's hard to slice this situation in any way other than Europa being extremely in the wrong.

[getsome]

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dear community of p99
However, we progressed over the last months and no one was willing to share Sky on a bi-weekly basis with us. Proof? Sky rotation thread here. Although this is the single occassion where we would have time zone advantage, we ie.

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