Bard swarm kiting that kills other players

[Durka]

I really don't care if its a 'bard zone', if I am getting PL'd by a friend or if 'this is how bards level'

Really, its disrespect and a waste of time. Nobody should have to "work around" another player just cause they swarm a zone. Fuck that. If I wanna camp at "mudpit" in OT, I should have no issues. If a bard runs through, swipes all the mobs and I fight a tiger, all of that bards tigers WILL socially aggro me because I am actively killing a tiger vs just proximity aggroing a mob.

If the bard aggroes every mob in the zone, thats their deal. I cant hate on that. I can only hate on getting me killed numerous times due to lack of respect AND understanding of how social aggro works.

All of the other fluff about this being a non-issue is just defending dickheadery. EQ is a sandbox for EVERYONE to play in. If you cant play nice, GTFO. OT is not a bard zone.

It's everyone's.

[mreynert]

Originally Posted by Durka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fuck that. If I wanna camp at "mudpit" in OT, I should have no issues.

That's like saying you can park yourself in the middle of an interstate highway and the rest of the world has to accommodate you. Move 50 yards to the wall, pull there, no issues for anyone. You taking this stand saying bards are evil, they can't play their way, but everyone must bow to my wishes makes you look just as bad.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Durka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a bard runs through, swipes all the mobs and I fight a tiger, all of that bards tigers WILL socially aggro me because I am actively killing a tiger vs just proximity aggroing a mob.

What you just said isn't always entirely correct just FYI. If he only runs by them and gets them by proximity aggro, what you explained can happen. However, if the bard actually engages them (snare/damage/etc) rather than getting body aggro, they will not attack you.

Essentially, when the bard is aggroing mobs onto you, s/he is just being careless and using body aggro on KOS mobs.

Not that this charges your point in this thread, but it might clarify why you would or wouldn't get mobs attacking you.

I'm not 100% positive, but I believe if all of the mobs involved are green to the bard, I don't think his body aggro on a mob will pop it onto you if he runs by. Not entirely sure about this.

Last, I guess I don't understand what the point of this thread is aside from people sharing bad experiences they've had with bards or others defending bards. The mechanics of bard AEing exists in the game, and the problem lies with people utilizing this mechanic sloppily rather than the bard class itself. With that being said, what do you hope to gain from this thread aside from a PSA of your frustration? I mean every single bard that doesn't have his or her head under a rock has heard these complaints before. I don't mean my question in a hostile manner; I just don't see anything coming from this discussion. It seems like maybe it's something better fit for the Rants and Flames section of the forums.

Until bard AEing is nerfed, which is not likely, things are not going to change in zones where bards can AE. Too many bards just don't give a shit or are sloppy.