Rangers, decent tanks?

[Melias]

Originally Posted by mmiles8 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That may be the case.

I'd need to do some searching, but I know most of that data is pre-SoF, but I honestly can't recall if bards/clerics got their boost before then or not. I think they did.

Go, go search powers, away!

Edit:

"The actual Post Softcap numbers based on the returns from the AoW calculations are (Quoted from Nodyin):

War: 34.38% (Keep in mind they have a natural DI advantage)

Knight: 32.25%

Bard/Monk/Cleric/Ranger: 30.3%

Beast/Rogue/Sham/Zerk: 25%

Druids/Silks: 20%"

That's all post-SoF, so I guess those are the cleric/bard numbers.

On Live rangers are pretty godlike, but yea, they languished for a long time without a real niche which made most groups avoid them since the Holy Trinity was king in people's minds.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Melias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd need to do some searching, but I know most of that data is pre-SoF, but I honestly can't recall if bards/clerics got their boost before then or not. I think they did.

Go, go search powers, away!

Edit:

"The actual Post Softcap numbers based on the returns from the AoW calculations are (Quoted from Nodyin):

War: 34.38% (Keep in mind they have a natural DI advantage)

Knight: 32.25%

Bard/Monk/Cleric/Ranger: 30.3%

Beast/Rogue/Sham/Zerk: 25%

Druids/Silks: 20%"

That's all post-SoF, so I guess those are the cleric/bard numbers.

On Live rangers are pretty godlike, but yea, they languished for a long time without a real niche which made most groups avoid them since the Holy Trinity was king in people's minds.

That's what happens when too many mobs summon and rooting them doesn't help. Or when tracking doesn't help because everyone is staying in the same place. Or when you don't need to worry about them running away at below 20 percent health. Or when a ranger can't function as an interim tank like a pally or sk because mobs can kill you in one round. ETc. ETc. The content wasn't made with rangers in mind. And a lot of those abilities were given to other classes as AA's and disciplines. It just watered down our effectiveness, but groups still wanted us for our dps. This watering down happened to a lot of classes too. Probably has something to do with population issues. If there're less people, you can't have any single class be too specialized or desired.

Also you know, rangers have always been seen as gimp, but I think in classic we have more utility value because we're better able to work as interim tanks (when things go wrong) and can root (mobs don't summon) and so on. I'm probably missing the bigger picture, but I never said I was perfect.

Rangers not god, btw. John Lennon is god. And you -will- worship him or i will ranger gate you.

(i have an 85 ranger on live, btw. i can play him whenever i want. do you have that?)