Why I think p99 is actually pretty important

[UrsusMajor]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you talking about camelot unchained? with no PvE leveling or item drops and pretty much all advancement is centered around crafting and PvP?

Some of his ideas are good, but the bad ones are insanely bad.

Please explain what is bad.

In any game with PvP that is how I level my characters. In DAoC when they made it so you could level your character in BG's that is all I did. In WoW, Rift and SWtoR as soon as I could PvP, it's all I did to level.

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by UrsusMajor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please explain what is bad.

In any game with PvP that is how I level my characters. In DAoC when they made it so you could level your character in BG's that is all I did. In WoW, Rift and SWtoR as soon as I could PvP, it's all I did to level.

That sounds like a terrible time to me. Why even bother playing an MMORPG if you are just going to participate in match made battles the entire time? Might as well just pick up CoD or one of the thousands of other TDM games out there.

When an MMORPG dev says that they don't want PvE to be important, they are just making a TDM game.

[NegaStoat]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Might as well just pick up CoD or one of the thousands of other TDM games out there.

In defense of this gentleman's view on leveling with PvP, take a moment to think of what gaming alternatives were available at the time of DAoC's reign. If you were a player that loved team based pvp, loved fantasy, and loved being able to tinker with character stats / ability in a deep and meaningful way - DAoC was the only one of its kind at that time.

Telling him to go play a shooter instead in 2000-2003 is... Not sure of the logic there.

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by NegaStoat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In defense of this gentleman's view on leveling with PvP, take a moment to think of what gaming alternatives were available at the time of DAoC's reign. If you were a player that loved team based pvp, loved fantasy, and loved being able to tinker with character stats / ability in a deep and meaningful way - DAoC was the only one of its kind at that time.

Telling him to go play a shooter instead in 2000-2003 is... Not sure of the logic there.

I'm not telling him to go back in time and play a shooter instead of daoc, in fact I didn't tell him to do anything. I'm talking about playing an mmorpg today that is designed around PvP and deliberately avoids any type of meaningful PvE content. He asked me what was bad about it, and I explained why that kind of gameplay sounds terrible to me.