The Running of the Giants

[darkkor]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good points.. I think something in the middle might be best?

True, it might not be possible for every single person in a guild to partake in this due to schedule or whatever and it would be stupid for one guild to forfeit because the only guy that hasn't gone yet can't log on.

Something like a majority % of the guild must take part + whoever wants to. Then just go through them until everyone has gone then people can start going back for seconds.

The main reason I said everyone at first stems from my personal view on having other people decide whether I get to raid or not. In other methods it's me and my guild, in this method my fate is in the hands of only a few people and not in mine at all.

It's also not a measure of a guilds sum of skill, which is what raiding is, so I think whatever you do to be able to raid should reflect that as well.

Once again, everyone has got to want to do all of this stuff. Most people are going to want to do it the way it was on classic because it's a huge part of the game, racing to spawns. Almost everyone remembers doing it and liked it to a certain extent. But like I said, if everyone really wants to do this stuff, it's definitely a cool idea, not trying to knock it at all, just trying to look at the big picture of the entire raiding community.

Makes me think, you guys got any solid feedback on what % of each guild is actually down for these game type competitions instead of classic racing?

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by darkkor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True, it might not be possible for every single person in a guild to partake in this due to schedule or whatever and it would be stupid for one guild to forfeit because the only guy that hasn't gone yet can't log on.

The beauty of FG's is that they spawn every 8 hours. It can be done any spawn before the deadline for the week. We'd have to agree on priority for a guild doing FG's for their race, but FG's are on such farm status by both raiding guilds that this isn't a problem as I forsee it (how many times have FG's been fought over? none?).
EDIT: Also, especially as an up and coming raid guild, FG's are a major target anyway. This is something you need to do anyway to farm loot to be more dragon/planar ready. It can be done on your schedule with a minimum of coordination from the other concerned guilds (1 or 2 witnesses from each involved organization).

Originally Posted by darkkor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main reason I said everyone at first stems from my personal view on having other people decide whether I get to raid or not.

This is a totally valid concern of an up and coming raider, and I think that you should ask around and see if FG's are as hard as you may think. Also, remember that this system is modelled around a duel-for-pick ethic, which means that even if you lose, you still get at least one if not 2 or 3 raid targets.

Originally Posted by darkkor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's also not a measure of a guilds sum of skill, which is what raiding is, so I think whatever you do to be able to raid should reflect that as well.

While this is true, it seemed like the major gripe of the involved parties with the duel system was that it was not PVE. This is at least a PVE solution, with many advantages as I see it over the other system, which has been accepted as at least a major contender in any agreement raid guilds might come to.