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Old 07-28-2013, 03:21 PM
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Agreed, does not seem like 2x is in effect. Any comment from GMs?
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:23 PM
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Agreed, does not seem like 2x is in effect. Any comment from GMs?
Yes, Sirken has mentioned it multiple times on his stream stating that it is in effect and was told so by Rogean. I'm guessing he won't post it here as the mere mention of it gets some of the classic nazis foaming at the mouth with rage.
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:26 PM
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Yes, Sirken has mentioned it multiple times on his stream stating that it is in effect and was told so by Rogean. I'm guessing he won't post it here as the mere mention of it gets some of the classic nazis foaming at the mouth with rage.
Unless a GM comes on here and says, yes its 2x XP then it's not enabled imho. There's way too much hearsay
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:30 PM
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Unless a GM comes on here and says, yes its 2x XP then it's not enabled imho. There's way too much hearsay
when sirken starts streaming again ask him yourself, what do you need him to type up a letter and get it notarized?
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:47 PM
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when sirken starts streaming again ask him yourself, what do you need him to type up a letter and get it notarized?

Nope. I'm sure as his official spokesman you'll be sure to let everyone know.

I'd rather have the word from the source instead of little fly's on the wall.
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:20 PM
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So I did a quick empiric test to confirm this. A while back I empirically tested pet exp penaltys using a lvl 1 DE chanter and DUXAUI (which gives % of level per kill) and those results are posted at the bottom. From that experiment I know what I got for soloing a lvl 1 mob as a lvl 1 DE chanter in nektulos back in december. The number per kill solo (no pet) was 11%.

I logged in today, created another lvl 1 DE enchanter, and killed three level one mobs. I got 8% on first kill and 9% on the next two (due to duxa rounding to nearest percentage point). Conclusion -- no exp bonus, and unless I'm missing something really obvious it is actually an exp nerf. (Alternatively, something about the way exp is generated changed btw december and now, like a decreased ZEM for netkulos..seems unlikely but who knows)

Now It is 8pm EST sunday night as a write this, maybe the exp bonus was already gone..but if that were the case i'd expect to at least get 11% per kill.


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Experiment complete :P

So 100% confirmed there is no experience penalty in groups. Thanks to options the necro for assistance, and Hyasinth for heroing my lvl 1 pet. We both made brand new level ones (enchanters cuz apparently lvl 1 mages dont get pets who knew!?)

We did a few kills with him (no pet) killing level one mobs grouped with me, with him doing 100% of damage -- 5 or 6% per kill (due to rounding on duxaui display). Then we had my chanter animation solo some stuff doing 100% damage -- I did zero damage by finding decaying skellies who would just attack me and let pet do rest. Also got either 5 or 6% exp per kill. That's pretty much it right there -- grouped exp penalties for pets do not exist, even if pet does 100% of the damage. I also tried a few times just doing one hit on mob and letting pet do rest for sake of thoroughness -- 5 or 6% per kill.

Finally, I degrouped and tried soloing just to confirm the solo penalty is 50%, as sometimes Ive been told things like "it's actually 75% not 50%." Being solo and letting pet do 100% of damage -- once again netted me either 5 or 6% per kill. This makes perfect sense, as instead of splitting the exp with Options lvl 1 I was splitting it with my pet. Next, I dumped my pet and soloed some level ones -- lo and behold exactly 11% per kill.

To summarize -- there is no pet exp penalty in groups in any way, shape or form, even if pet does 100% of the damage.

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Old 07-28-2013, 08:24 PM
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So I did a quick empiric test to confirm this. A while back I empirically tested pet exp penaltys using a lvl 1 DE chanter and DUXAUI (which gives % of level per kill) and those results are posted at the bottom. From that experiment I know what I got for soloing a lvl 1 mob as a lvl 1 DE chanter in nektulos back in december. The number per kill solo (no pet) was 11%.

I logged in today, created another lvl 1 DE enchanter, and killed three level one mobs. I got 8% on first kill and 9% on the next two (due to duxa rounding to nearest percentage point). Conclusion -- no exp bonus, and unless I'm missing something really obvious it is actually an exp nerf. (Alternatively, something about the way exp is generated changed btw december and now, like a decreased ZEM for netkulos..seems unlikely but who knows)

Now It is 8pm EST sunday night as a write this, maybe the exp bonus was already gone..but if that were the case i'd expect to at least get 11% per kill.
Sounds like Rogean is the best troll in forum history...
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:28 PM
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Yes, Sirken has mentioned it multiple times on his stream stating that it is in effect and was told so by Rogean. I'm guessing he won't post it here as the mere mention of it gets some of the classic nazis foaming at the mouth with rage.
Yea Sirken said something about 'small numbers being doubled are still small numbers' and that 2x XP won't be noticeable at higher levels..

it's still twice as much, you would definitely notice that..
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:52 PM
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Yea Sirken said something about 'small numbers being doubled are still small numbers' and that 2x XP won't be noticeable at higher levels..

it's still twice as much, you would definitely notice that..
this makes no sense to a mind boggling degree. after 1 hour of exp you can usually tell if its double or not
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Old 07-28-2013, 06:00 PM
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this makes no sense to a mind boggling degree. after 1 hour of exp you can usually tell if its double or not
Sounds like you have been played my friend.
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