5 Great Reasons to Wipe it Clean

[aowen]

You're my boy blue! I won't let the mean people hurt you.

[Meiva]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rhuma, I'm relatively new (2 mos as you can see by join date) and I do not feel I have more benefit from a wipe than "old veteran neckbeards".

I have been enjoying my time here. Many zones in my level range are well populated, even better than they were on Live tbh. I find groups regularly, go to the dungeons I want to go to with appropriately leveled groups (and this is "all of the dungeons in my level range" - I haven't missed a single one yet and that makes me very happy). I think Grallos has gained at most 10 levels in the outdoors out of the 39 he has and most of those were pre-10.

A wipe means long lines at Najena, overcamping in Cazic-Thule and at evil eye camp in Lower Guk. It means that the last 2 months I spent doing all this cool stuff I never did on Live basically merits a do-over because a bunch of guys at the top are grumpy about the raid scene and the prevalence of Kunark loot. It would be OK but would it be awesome? Not nearly as awesome as all you old schoolers would like to think, certainly not awesome for us new people who more or less just got here. I'll still have the memories of these last 2 months granted, and these memories have been great stuff, but I don't think they would be improved upon by a server wipe. Velious mudflation will wipe a lot of these problems away as new, better items hit the server and old stuff gets nerfed as with the classic time line.

I just want you to know my testimony as an actual new player so you don't think you're speaking for all of them. I bet a lot of new players who don't post in these forums would feel more or less the same way.

Ni!

The server will never be wiped under circumstances that may be controlled. I am happy for this, but I wouldn't object to a new server that follow the classic timeline.

[liveitup1216]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that sounds like a problem with your personal comprehension if you ask me. we don't have to justify ourselves to you. just because you don't wish to believe it doesn't make it any less valid.

I'm not attacking you, I'm genuinely asking why you're against a wipe other than losing your pixels...

We all play here because we love old everquest and playing with people. The only justifiable reason to be against wiping is because you don't want to lose your stuff/characters. How am I the selfish one? I stand to lose just as much and I don't care either way because I enjoy the game, it'd be fun to play in a fresh environment again after 4 years.

The amount of people we'd lose would probably be completely negated by people picking up again. Stop getting your panties in a bunch because of theoretically having your pixels taking away and nerdraging off the server. It's a discussion.

[Norrath]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh shit, your mean has totally changed my stance on this whole thing! i can't believe how wrong i've been and how right you are!

wait. nevermind. you're still a dumbass.

Some free education for you:

1.) It's meme, not "mean".

2.) It's moron, not "moran".

3.) It's perfectly reasonable to post in a thread titled "5 Great Reasons to Wipe it Clean" about not wanting to wipe the current server, but instead encouraging the opening of a new server.

4.) Any rational person can read the rhetoric between the two of us in this thread and see that I have been trying to rationally communicate with you, and you have been giving me the typed equivalent of:

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rhuma7]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just want you to know my testimony as an actual new player so you don't think you're speaking for all of them. I bet a lot of new players who don't post in these forums would feel more or less the same way.

You just missed out on a lot of stuff and yes there are groups to be had and whatnot but you are also at the start of a giant mountain that you are unfairly put up against as the price for items is astronomical when it comes to legit means(not reselling in EC tunnel, which requires a huge amount of plat to begin with;RMT)

You are on a journey to the high end that is a brick wall, put up just below the top, with no hope of achieving your epic unless you buy it(besides monk) due to immense boredom and RMT rackets farming the shit out of your epic drops.

There are a plethora of problems on the server that arent evident until you really get to see them for yourself.

While the evil eye might have a long line you are at least on an equal ground with everyone and have an infinitely better chance at getting more out of your time invested in a new server than the journey you are traveling down now, which will lead to mediocrity.

Your mileage may vary and my opinion is an opinion, take it as you will and regardless, I hope you do enjoy your experiences here on p99 and get what you want out of it.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3.) It's perfectly reasonable to post in a thread titled "5 Great Reasons to Wipe it Clean" about not wanting to wipe the current server, but instead encouraging the opening of a new server.

4.) Any rational person can read the rhetoric between the two of us in this thread and see that I have been trying to rationally communicate with you, and you have been giving me the typed equivalent of:

any suggestions you've made have been proven A) selfish or B) worthless, yet you continue. how rational is it for you to hang on to your desires after they've been debunked and deemed not good for the community?

so instead, you resort to trolling, name calling, and posting memes.

you're just another RNF wannabe on a troll account.

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This message is hidden because Norrath is on your ignore list.

that's better.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Rhuma7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are on a journey to the high end that is a brick wall, put up just below the top, with no hope of achieving your epic unless you buy it(besides monk) due to immense boredom and RMT rackets farming the shit out of your epic drops.

wut

people finish epics every day. the only exception is those requiring trak or VS drops, and that's from poor design that gets (mostly) fixed in velious (poor wizards) and cannot be blamed on a single guild.

shit's classic.

you're clearly clueless about the end game on this server. how is the lag in MM today? still lots of trains?

[Joroz]

The simple solution is make Blue the public "test" server and release a classic server that has 4 years of exploits/bugs fixed.

[aowen]

Originally Posted by liveitup1216 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We all play here because we love old everquest and playing with people. The only justifiable reason to be against wiping is because you don't want to lose your stuff/characters. How am I the selfish one? I stand to lose just as much and I don't care either way because I enjoy the game, it'd be fun to play in a fresh environment again after 4 years.

The amount of people we'd lose would probably be completely negated by people picking up again. Stop getting your panties in a bunch because of theoretically having your pixels taking away and nerdraging off the server. It's a discussion.

What is the main objective of everquest? Oh yeah to level a character and collect gear for him, while having fun along the way. So naturally, you don't want to lose the two things which constitute the only two tangible reasons for playing.

They have this thing called starting another character if you want to restart that process, up to 8 characters! The best thing about this being free is you can have as many accounts as you want, and therefore as many characters as you want, without taking everyone else's away, clogging all the newb zones, and making life miserable in general, just to give rebirth to the same problems we already face now. We should figure out how to solve the problems without resetting everything or they will just be back in the future.

[lecompte]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how is the lag in MM today? still lots of trains?

MM is awesome today. Has a 100% xp bonus on account of the past few weeks of lag and the zone is almost empty (I assume cause people are at work?). I'm loving it.