5 Great Reasons to Wipe it Clean

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by purist__ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wiping it clean would increase server pop to at least 1,500-2,000 due to people coming back to play

confirmed would thrive

simple speculation with no basis in reality.

still waiting for at least one good reason.

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

Maybe because everytime there was a poll, the yes votes were double?

[DukeVonSausage]

Originally Posted by Gaffin Deeppockets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe because everytime there was a poll, the yes votes were double?

Assuming poles/votes were ever accurate in representing the ideas or desires of an entire populace would be inaccurate.

Look at our congress now, can we honestly say that their decisions represent the majority of individuals in America?

[thufir]

Wiping the server would be beneficial to hard core forum posters who are longing for a chance to jump back in and begin the race again. To more casual folks who don't care about the raid scene it'd be a real let down and demoralizing to have their days of grinding removed because someone is selling 10 packs of fungi tunics that don't affect them in any way. There are actually a fair amount of new people lately as well, even if the raiders rarely see them.

I'd imagine this is why the forum polls are always skewed towards wiping because harder core players are more likely to post in the forums. Similar to why Systolic's original post alleging GM corruption had almost half of those polled believing him in the poll despite the fact that they were just shady statements with no backup -- people who post here more regularly, being harder core, are more disenchanted with p99 and more willing to believe bad things about it imo.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Gaffin Deeppockets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe because everytime there was a poll, the yes votes were double?

and the polls are valid because everybody who plays this game visits the forum every day to keep track of this kind of thing, right?

[DukeVonSausage]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wiping the server would be beneficial to hard core forum posters who are longing for a chance to jump back in and begin the race again. To more casual folks who don't care about the raid scene it'd be a real let down and demoralizing to have their days of grinding removed because someone is selling 10 packs of fungi tunics that don't affect them in any way. There are actually a fair amount of new people lately as well, even if the raiders rarely see them.

I'd imagine this is why the forum polls are always skewed towards wiping because harder core players are more likely to post in the forums. Similar to why Systolic's original post alleging GM corruption had almost half the forums believing him in the poll despite the fact that they were just shady statements with no backup -- people who post here more regularly, being harder core, are more disenchanted with p99 and more willing to believe bad things about it imo.

This.

Liveitup1216, nobody ever answers me, but how would 1 wipe in almost 4 years of a server's life induce fear that your characters would keep getting wiped? Still genuinely curious how you go about living your life if you live in fear of things that happen one time.

Because of what context the wipe is done in. By wiping now we are affirming that we can not, or do not know how to handle duping/exploiting in a manner which doesn't cause a crisis from occurring and having to nuke our entire server in an attempt to solve the problem (Again it doesn't in any way shape or form).

Its also reasonable to assume that when the server does ultimately mature again, we've done nothing to curtail the original problems which afflicted the first server, and we're back in the same damn situation again. Pretty obvious.

[Splitquick]

I see why a wipe would be such a heated discussion against all demographics... the vets/newbs/casuals, EVERYONE.

I don't see why having a second server is such a heated topic... I get that from a vets perspective it could split the population and in some scenarios possibly hurt longevity on both servers, and that, even as a worst case scenario, hurts everyone.

What if they, and this is just a hypothetical, brought up a 2nd server with a huge message that said "This server is a fresh copy of P99 blue, and is on a 3-month trial. At the end of 3 months, if the population on this server is not >200 it will be shut down. If the population on the Original P99 blue drops <200, this server will shut down to encourage repopulation of the original server. If after 3 months, both servers have a stable population, this server will remain the same as blue."

Just sayin, as a hypothetical, and won't happen. But would that please all demographics? And it's just fun to throw out random scenarios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hirbow]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i know i would quit. check, your move.

I'm sure you would. Then after a couple of months of you not finding any other emulated servers you would come back. Supply and demand. Good luck in EQmac or Live.. LOL.

Everyone has a right to play what they like. Just like people bashing 99RED. I don't like it, nor will I play it, but there's definitely a market for it. So let the people play RED - it's nice to have an option if you choose it.

Just like a new server - let the people that want to experience the adrenaline of starting over, start! if you wish to remain then so be it.

Just realize one thing. Sooner or later there will be a reset, new server, or the termination of the server ..

[Furniture]

Just because there are people with better gear then you, doesnt mean that the game is unbalanced/broken/any other retarded ideas you guys have. If not jealousy, then what is the problem? This is not a pvp server, other geared players in the world actually helps you

The nice thing about this game is that you can farm any piece of non raid gear you want. No, the fbss, smr, etc. is not "permacamped", any idiot can get the camp if they tried. Newbies starting off on this server now are doing 500% better then they were 2-3 years ago due to hand me downs, twinked group members, etc..

The only problem here is this bitchy jealous little girl mentality going on, and you should all be ashamed.

That said, I would support the opening of a new server, soley because pre kunark was more fun than post kunark.

[purist__]

Wipe it clean