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Old 12-18-2009, 06:52 PM
Dartagnan Dartagnan is offline
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If you have decided to make P1999 more of a job than a game, that's not Nilbog's fault.

But this probably explains the vigor with which you high-enders are attacking the forums these days.
So me being on this server and putting a lot of time and effort should mean nothing? Everquest has always worked on the principle of time. More time more rewards.

I mean it's like kicking me out of the frenzy camp because I was there first. We don't do that with camps do we? If you're at a camp it's yours until you get out.

Why are we treating raid encounters any different?
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:55 PM
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So me being on this server and putting a lot of time and effort should mean nothing? Everquest has always worked on the principle of time. More time more rewards.

I mean it's like kicking me out of the frenzy camp because I was there first. We don't do that with camps do we? If you're at a camp it's yours until you get out.

Why are we treating raid encounters any different?
LOL... Transcendance were waiting at raid encounters at least 7 hours before hand, so what your saying is that the camp is rightfully theres??..... Then Why the fuck was IB crying and threatening to KS...
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:02 PM
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LOL... Transcendance were waiting at raid encounters at least 7 hours before hand, so what your saying is that the camp is rightfully theres??..... Then Why the fuck was IB crying and threatening to KS...
This is not true.

This happened during the Vox raid that Trans was doing. We waited and allowed Transcendence to engage. We would have moved in had there been a legitimate wipe.

Otto said that we would not do this because the DDOS attack happened, which caused Transcendence to wipe due to lag.

We understand that it was their kill. They camped and were there.

But let me tell you something. If you were camped at the frenzy spawn all by yourself and you could not take it, then the camp is not yours. The same thing should apply to any raid encounter. Just because your butt is physically there, does not mean you can just claim it. You got to be able to do it. This is how it's always been for all of us in EverQuest. To follow these rules and magically make raid encounters different is ridiculous.

First to engage. If Transcendence was in Permafrost and had the raid force to encounter Lady Vox, we would be more than willing to let them take the encounter. You can best be assured though that if they wipe we would take a jab at it. If you want classic, that's how it was.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:57 PM
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So me being on this server and putting a lot of time and effort should mean nothing? Everquest has always worked on the principle of time. More time more rewards.

I mean it's like kicking me out of the frenzy camp because I was there first. We don't do that with camps do we? If you're at a camp it's yours until you get out.

Why are we treating raid encounters any different?
Yes, but by your earlier comment if somone who has less play time than you is at the Frenzy camp, they should give it to you becasue you have "put in more time".

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This rotation system and any rotation system takes away the effort I have put into my character as someone can roll up a character tomorrow, level to 50 and have equal chance at everything I have been working hard for these past 2 months.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:05 PM
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Reiker,

On live, no player was made known of another player's punishment. If the problem you were having as a player and petitioned ceased, then you could assume that it was handled. I will NOT tell anyone how someone was punished nor will I tell the offender who petitioned against them.

If you don't trust me, then I have nothing else to say. My post should have summed it up. This is the last chance for you guys to stop wasting my time and forum reading time. I'm here for the server, not for individuals.

To everyone else,

I will not be monitoring this thread.. but if it becomes a rants and flames candidate, I will just delete the posts. I meant the shit the first time I said it, please comfort each other.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:08 PM
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Yes, but by your earlier comment if somone who has less play time than you is at the Frenzy camp, they should give it to you becasue you have "put in more time".
That's not true. If it is my failure to claim a camp and you are there before me it is yours.

This is what Wenai has basically done:

Imagine me being at frenzy camp. I was there before all of you and I was killing and having a fun time. Backpacks were full of FBSS!

Then Wenai comes in and says, "Dartagnan has too many FBSS's and you have been here too much. I am putting this camp on rotation because others need FBSS too. As such, you will all now rotate.

That's bogus and it is exactly what has happened.

None of you would allow this to happen if you were legitimately at a place before others. It is the one rule of EverQuest that is literally followed no matter what server you are on. If you have a camp, it's yours. You get your item, got to go to bed etc., you relinquish said camp and then next in line gets it.

If you truly believed in this rotation crap, then all our camps on this server should go on rotation because it's not fair that people should be able to camp tons of manastones or whatever else.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:00 PM
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So me being on this server and putting a lot of time and effort should mean nothing? Everquest has always worked on the principle of time. More time more rewards.

I mean it's like kicking me out of the frenzy camp because I was there first. We don't do that with camps do we? If you're at a camp it's yours until you get out.

Why are we treating raid encounters any different?
I'm saying it's a game...and it's been provided free of charge. I giggle every time I see someone talk about their time spent on this server as if they'd just finished up a day working in the coal mines.

I'm not telling you how to spend your free time, I'm just wondering if a little bit of perspective (such as standing in someone else's shoes) might not be in order.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:11 PM
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I'm saying it's a game...and it's been provided free of charge. I giggle every time I see someone talk about their time spent on this server as if they'd just finished up a day working in the coal mines.

I'm not telling you how to spend your free time, I'm just wondering if a little bit of perspective (such as standing in someone else's shoes) might not be in order.
Thank you, it is my time and I choose to spend it how I want.

You mean to tell me that if you got the manastone camp, you would put it on rotation? Every spawn someone else would get to kill it until you did?

Sorry, but I have never experienced EverQuest that way. You get there first, it's yours. If someone else beats you to it, it's theirs.

Remember Jboot camps? They didn't put those on rotation did they. You waited in line in hopes of getting into the group so you could /random for it. You didn't just walk up there and announce to them that you guys spend too much time there. I force a rotation of this spawn!
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:13 PM
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The people who run the server can choose to implement whatever rules they want.

If you don't like it you don't have to play. Voicing your concerns on the forums is fine, but spamming them because you don't get your way is not.
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