Rangers, decent tanks?

truzek · #1 07-25-2010, 02:56 PM

Lol you people are out of your fucking minds if you think rangers or even bards can be efficient tanks. Have you ever played a ranger? They drop like flys even at very low levels, its pathetic. Warriors, paladins and SKs have alot more hp and much better damage mitigation skills.

YendorLootmonkey · #2 07-25-2010, 03:01 PM

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Lol you people are out of your fucking minds if you think rangers or even bards can be efficient tanks. Have you ever played a ranger? They drop like flys even at very low levels, its pathetic. Warriors, paladins and SKs have alot more hp and much better damage mitigation skills.

Sir, speaking as a ranger, I ask you the same question.

If you're a min-maxer (the server is full of them), then no, a ranger isn't ever going to tank good enough for you. Can a ranger hold aggro right alongside a SK and take hits if they have to? Yes. Will it tax the healers mana more? Yes. Are they efficient tanks compared to plate classes? No. If you can't find a War/SK/Pally will a ranger or bard do in a pinch? Yes.

tj218 · #3 07-25-2010, 03:29 PM

As a Rogue I enjoy duo'ing with a ranger friend. He can tank, which allows me to backstab and then he can heal as well. Probably not the most efficient duo'ing but not bad.

Itchybottom · #4 07-25-2010, 04:05 PM

A ranger without weaponshield disc (2003 I think?) is going to die tanking anything but classic encounters. For typical camp the item pickup groups, it's a non-issue. A ranger can tank just fine in that situation. But you're never going to put a ranger in this era, up against Innoruuk as your primary tank; it's probably trivial for Terror/Fright/Dread/Dracolich though. I highly doubt you'll see rangers in Kunark tanking Overking Bathesid or Venril Sathir until they've maximum geared the content. I remember rangers on live soloing some mean crap when trueshot disc went in, but I never really saw a ranger pre-Luclin be able to tank anything that hit hard enough to require a dedicated tank (VT gear changed things a little, probably to mitigate how hard Luclin mobs hit)

Sparkin · #5 07-25-2010, 04:21 PM

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A ranger without weaponshield disc (2003 I think?) is going to die tanking anything but classic encounters. For typical camp the item pickup groups, it's a non-issue. A ranger can tank just fine in that situation. But you're never going to put a ranger in this era, up against Innoruuk as your primary tank; it's probably trivial for Terror/Fright/Dread/Dracolich though. I highly doubt you'll see rangers in Kunark tanking Overking Bathesid or Venril Sathir until they've maximum geared the content. I remember rangers on live soloing some mean crap when trueshot disc went in, but I never really saw a ranger pre-Luclin be able to tank anything that hit hard enough to require a dedicated tank (VT gear changed things a little, probably to mitigate how hard Luclin mobs hit)

Nobody here is saying they can tank raid mobs, everybody is talking about group shit.

Weaponshield (all hybrid 55/60 discs) went in with Velious IIRC, so that was the end of 00 / beginning of 01.

Humerox · #6 07-26-2010, 01:15 AM

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Sir, speaking as a ranger, I ask you the same question.

If you're a min-maxer (the server is full of them), then no, a ranger isn't ever going to tank good enough for you. Can a ranger hold aggro right alongside a SK and take hits if they have to? Yes. Will it tax the healers mana more? Yes. Are they efficient tanks compared to plate classes? No. If you can't find a War/SK/Pally will a ranger or bard do in a pinch? Yes.

Had a fine group tonight on an alt, lasted for hours. At one point we had a monk tank. At another we had a bard tank. If Rangers had been available for tanking when we were looking, they would have done just fine. Only death I saw in several hours was a bard that would have lived had the secondary heals gotten to him fast enough.

Can Rangers tank? Sure they can.

guineapig · #7 07-25-2010, 04:33 PM

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Lol you people are out of your fucking minds if you think rangers or even bards can be efficient tanks. Have you ever played a ranger? They drop like flys even at very low levels, its pathetic. Warriors, paladins and SKs have alot more hp and much better damage mitigation skills.

Ask any of the people I have grouped with on my Bard. Kobolds are quite easy to tank in Solb and the lower level range of Lguk is eaquily easy.

As far as plate versus chain goes, I'm fairly certain any twinked out ranger on this server has higher AC than my bard currently as I have not bothered farming / buying gear for that character. Also, as somebody else mentioned the AC difference between plate and chain in classic is not much at all.

Anyway, I am speaking from experience as a bard and I'm willing to bet that rangers do just fine in the areas I previously mentioned.

stormlord · #8 07-26-2010, 07:57 AM

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Lol you people are out of your fucking minds if you think rangers or even bards can be efficient tanks. Have you ever played a ranger? They drop like flys even at very low levels, its pathetic. Warriors, paladins and SKs have alot more hp and much better damage mitigation skills.

Go back to playing your warrior/sk/paladin, numnutz.

I konw that your feel incredibly jealous.

truzek · #9 07-27-2010, 10:44 AM

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Go back to playing your warrior/sk/paladin, numnutz.

I konw that your feel incredibly jealous.

Sure I am jealous of only being able to wear cloth and having the same ac and hp as a pixie lmao.