About Spawn variance....

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by mmiles8 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did Bumamgar post on the thread? I couldn't find it through the OP spamming 2 to 5 individual post responses per one troll response.

Yeah, I posted the apparently damning revelation that an officer in my guild tried to be proactive and come up with a solution to the campfest by approaching the two guilds that were engaged in camping at the time to see if there was a set of raiding rules that they would both be willing to agree to. Succeeding in that, those rules were presented to Nilbog and rejected.

Since I didn't bitchslap this officer down and demand that he approach every member of the server individually to get their opinion on the situation, I'm apparently a sneaky, manipulative bastard abusing my dev position for nefarious means, or something like that. I had some trouble following the convoluted forum troll logic, to be honest.

[Humerox]

retracted

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I posted the apparently damning revelation that an officer in my guild tried to be proactive and come up with a solution to the campfest by approaching the two guilds that were engaged in camping at the time to see if there was a set of raiding rules that they would both be willing to agree to. Succeeding in that, those rules were presented to Nilbog and rejected.

Since I didn't bitchslap this officer down and demand that he approach every member of the server individually to get their opinion on the situation, I'm apparently a sneaky, manipulative bastard abusing my dev position for nefarious means, or something like that. I had some trouble following the convoluted forum troll logic, to be honest.

For the record..i never was a part of that group.

I would like to reiterate the point of this thread.

We should have a 5-7 day spawn variance and not a 5-9 day. We should be seeing 16-20 mobs on a 30 day cycle instead of 12-20.

That is all.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I posted the apparently damning revelation that an officer in my guild tried to be proactive and come up with a solution to the campfest by approaching the two guilds that were engaged in camping at the time to see if there was a set of raiding rules that they would both be willing to agree to. Succeeding in that, those rules were presented to Nilbog and rejected.

Since I didn't bitchslap this officer down and demand that he approach every member of the server individually to get their opinion on the situation, I'm apparently a sneaky, manipulative bastard abusing my dev position for nefarious means, or something like that. I had some trouble following the convoluted forum troll logic, to be honest.

Oh shut up... Read your own posts. The idea was introduced as a WI thing including IB/DA. You mentioned it was somebody else's only after people, including myself, assumed it was your idea, and then edited your posts. Furthermore, you knew beforehand, okayed it and gave input to that officer with complete disregard for other guilds on the server. What do you call someone with information they are privy to but knowingly refuse to give it to others who should be in on the matter at hand? Your officer approached only two guilds in a secretive fashion and expect to get some sort of sympathy from the rest of us for trying. Save it. What he did was a massive step backward, and you know it.

Whatever is decided has to be a comprehensive plan that can be read by all BEFORE it's given to the GMs. Not to mention having GM input from his/your already proposed plan would save quite a bit of effort for the people deciding the future set of rules. It shows what the GMs don't agree with and where they can be flexible. The fact that it was shot down with a half-hearted 2 sentence explanation of what it was does nobody any good and further feeds skepticism which has already grown towards what has occurred.

EDIT: my comments about your name being blue was repeated there by Klaatu. I, and others, were under the impression that these were your rules and your idea, you only clarified yourself after the fact. It's leverage with the other 2 guilds that I was referring to, not the GMs.

[G13]

The only guilds that deserve to write new raid rules are IB and DA.

The rest of you planar trash farmers can go pound sand. You put more effort on these boards whining and bitching about the raid situation than you do attempting to actually raid anything in game.

Nobody is stopping any of you lazy shit led guilds from organizing, putting pressure, roll calling, and calling timers on any guild camping a boss. Nobody. Instead you troll the forums expecting a hand out, or for you to be able to write new raid rules that favor your lack of effort. To do any of this doesn't require you to camp, so stop trying to claim that's the reason why your guilds don't do a damn thing on this server. It isn't. The truth is you don't want to put in any effort to kill mobs at all. You want shit handed to you without actually competing.

None of you are organized. None you you even try. You don't deserve a damn thing, so stop pretending like your opinion matters as far as end game content. It doesn't.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only guilds that deserve to write new raid rules are IB and DA.

The rest of you planar trash farmers can go pound sand. You put more effort on these boards whining and bitching about the raid situation than you do attempting to actually raid anything in game.

Nobody is stopping any of you lazy shit led guilds from organizing, putting pressure, roll calling, and calling timers on any guild camping a boss. Nobody. Instead you troll the forums expecting a hand out, or for you to be able to write new raid rules that favor your lack of effort. To do any of this doesn't require you to camp, so stop trying to claim that's the reason why your guilds don't do a damn thing on this server. It isn't. The truth is you don't want to put in any effort to kill mobs at all. You want shit handed to you without actually competing.

None of you are organized. None you you even try. You don't deserve a damn thing, so stop pretending like your opinion matters as far as end game content. It doesn't.

Another elitist asshat that tries to promote his own greatness while riding the tails of the established. Welcome to the discussion new guy!

Perhaps you should just read my OP and see that i have no complaints about the poopsocking. I simply pointed out that we should see 16-20 spawns in a 30 day cycle instead of 12-20. Somehow this turned into a debate about raids etc...

Either way you seem to be mislead to think that poopsocking takes some measure of skill or that it can only be done by couple guilds. Or that in fact you are so great because you do poopsock content. Trust me you are not about shit. You are doing this on a EMU with content that is 11 years old. YOU ARE NOT THAT FUCKING SPECIAL MAN!

[Auvdar]

Make bosses FFA. GM's stay out of it unless training/KSing happens. Problem solved.

This is the classic EQ I remember.

Want me to make this into a essay or something? First guild to mobilize and engage said boss wins?

[G13]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another elitist asshat that tries to promote his own greatness while riding the tails of the established. Welcome to the discussion new guy!

Perhaps you should just read my OP and see that i have no complaints about the poopsocking. I simply pointed out that we should see 16-20 spawns in a 30 day cycle instead of 12-20. Somehow this turned into a debate about raids etc...

Either way you seem to be mislead to think that poopsocking takes some measure of skill or that it can only be done by couple guilds. Or that in fact you are so great because you do poopsock content. Trust me you are not about shit. You are doing this on a EMU with content that is 11 years old. YOU ARE NOT THAT FUCKING SPECIAL MAN!

Nobody said anything about poop socking. This is the strawman you carebears keep trying to fall back on. Maybe you need to re read the current raid rules because obviously you don't understand them. Nowhere in my post did I even mention poopsocking.

You don't have to poopsock to call timers, pressure, roll call, ect. You don't want to roll call though. You want to just login to your little EMU server, zone into sol B, and lazily kill naggy. Other people don't play this game the way you want them to play it though. They are out thinking you. Out playing you. They are organized and want the mobs more than you do. In response, you come and troll the forums with 30 paged threads full of crocodile tears.

Trans couldn't hack it 6 months ago. They aren't going to hack it now. You didn't come back trying to beat IB and DA with the current raid rules. As a matter of fact, IB wiped the floor with your retards 6 months ago when they only used a druid to track and organize after a mob popped. Now you're going to come back and try to change things? You think FFA/FTE is going to give your pathetic guild the upper hand or something? It's laughable. You people complaining of "poopsocking" and that it's just 2 guilds lazily camping a mob's spawn days in advance without any real organization or mobilization ect CLEARLY have no idea WTF you are talking about, or how the game is being played right now at the end game. Zero. None.

Nobody has ever even tried to pressure DA or IB over a boss spawn. Maybe DA once, when Draco happened to pop in prime time, and guess what, DA didn't pull draco in time and Divinity got the kill. Holy shit what a concept. This server could have been bad ass if more than 2 guilds were applying pressure and strategies to the raid rules, but no. That didn't happen. You people rolled over. I remember the foreign guilds on my classic server. They were top notch guilds, dedicated. Here they are non existent. Nobody has tried to ally with each other. Nobody has tried to shake things up in ANY way. Trans? Seriously? You guys rolled over and couldn't even hack it using a druid to track for you and mobilize. You failed miserably. Nobody in your guild would answer a batphone. That didn't require poopsocking. It required a minimum amount of effort. You failed.

You are all irrelevant. Go ahead and continue to make your crybaby threads where you complain and bitch about the raid scene. IB and DA and now WI, the only guild to step up, will slay dragons and gods while you losers farm Phinny and Shiverbacks.

[Bones]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... effort... effort ... effort...

At first I laughed... but it quickly turned to pity.