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Old 07-11-2013, 11:28 PM
Daldolma Daldolma is offline
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It's the whole point of the fucking case, you fucking idiot.
lol.

you are totally ignorant re: the laws in play in this case. stand your ground has NOTHING to do with this case. it has not been mobilized by the defense and it needn't be. as both xasten and i have explained, zimmerman's claim that he was pinned to the ground has totally eliminated any relevance SYG might have had. the only unique aspect of SYG is the removal of an obligation to retreat. if you can't retreat because your attacker is pinning you down to the ground, that difference is irrelevant. this is pure self defense, not SYG
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:33 PM
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lol.

you are totally ignorant re: the laws in play in this case. stand your ground has NOTHING to do with this case. it has not been mobilized by the defense and it needn't be. as both xasten and i have explained, zimmerman's claim that he was pinned to the ground has totally eliminated any relevance SYG might have had. the only unique aspect of SYG is the removal of an obligation to retreat. if you can't retreat because your attacker is pinning you down to the ground, that difference is irrelevant. this is pure self defense, not SYG
Zimmerman was aware of the SYG law, and I guarantee you it was in his mind when he got out of that car packing a gun. You're an idiot if you can't see that. There's no way he would have pursued Martin without the gun. Martin wasn't a female, after all, as Zimmerman soon found out.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:40 PM
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Zimmerman was aware of the SYG law, and I guarantee you it was in his mind when he got out of that car packing a gun. You're an idiot if you can't see that. There's no way he would have pursued Martin without the gun. Martin wasn't a female, after all, as Zimmerman soon found out.
um, what?

you're now guaranteeing what was going through zimmerman's mind when he got out of his car? going to go ahead and just ignore that, so as not to wade through that depth of stupidity.

but you don't seem to understand that even if he DID know about SYG, and even if it was on his mind, it was totally irrelevant because the facts of this case have nothing to do with SYG. he didn't need SYG. this could have happened in a non-SYG state and nothing would be substantially different. based on your comments, i do not believe you know anything about SYG, the difference between murder 2 and manslaughter, this case, or even the law in general.

but naturally, you have an extremely strong opinion on the subject.
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:06 AM
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Zimmerman was aware of the SYG law, and I guarantee you it was in his mind when he got out of that car packing a gun. You're an idiot if you can't see that. There's no way he would have pursued Martin without the gun. Martin wasn't a female, after all, as Zimmerman soon found out.
LOL! If he was aware of the SYG he would have realized it did not apply to the situation he was in.
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