So how about that Zimmerman trial?

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gz not even using SYG...

The professor testified Wednesday that Zimmerman got an "A" in his criminal justice class -- a course in which self defense and Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, now pivotal in Zimmerman's case -- were discussed.

from the first paragraph:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_1...y-expert-says/

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by moklianne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The professor testified Wednesday that Zimmerman got an "A" in his criminal justice class -- a course in which self defense and Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, now pivotal in Zimmerman's case -- were discussed.

someone clearly doesn't understand SYG or self-defense

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

someone clearly doesn't understand SYG or self-defense

Or lives in a state where SYG doesn't exist and self defense can't be so easily abused.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by moklianne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or lives in a state where SYG doesn't exist and self defense can't be so easily abused.

I think you're not catching the thrust of the argument. SYG abuse is not in question here, at all. Sure, people are talking about it BECAUSE of the trial, but it is in NO WAY part of the actual proceedings. SYG was not used, much less abused, here.

Zimmerman's defense is as follows:

Self-defense because he was about to be murderized while pinned to the ground. That's it. He is NOT asserting SYG nor is it relevant to the case. SYG would ONLY be relevant if he had to opportunity to flee before using deadly force but chose not to flee. Even if Florida was NOT a SYG state, the concept would be irrelevant because of Zimmerman's defense. His story is that he was pinned. It is an integral part of his claims. Because his defense includes the inability to escape, SYG never enters the picture.

This is an all-or-nothing situation. He either proves that he defended himself from imminent harm while pinned, or he does not. There is no third theory where SYG comes into play.