elderan, get in here, i've got some calculations that i need to run by you

[Nirgon]

- Knowledge - after doing the fight once or twice, they knew it and continued to farm it. You knew the fight for progression purposes in advance, but it doesn't make farming it easier.
- Gear, yes the timeline.. heh. WTB Project BigBoy when its done.
- Communication - I know we had Vent in velious, don't remember when that started but in Vanilla raiding it was "no one in shout while we make groups". So I'll score you some points there.
- Invis pulling/exploited dragon haste/farmed gems from exploited mist walkers you can forget it mister.

The SINGLE THING (non-bug / content related) that makes this easier, in all honesty, is the client stability. Back in live if you had 40-50 people and engaged a raid mob, many people just dc'd.

As far as skill or knowledge, most of the people I met here were completely and absolutely clueless about content and most mechanics. The average raider on RZ was about Chuck/Nirgon/Kringe knowings of the game. Here I see people that don't even know their way through Butcher Block and the Freeports decked out in PD lewt. Ew.