Best/Worst Classes up to Velious

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by fennixad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ranger are one of the best class in group:
nice cc, slow(epic, swamcaller, self haste (epic), heals to drop ench aggro on trains, best aggro makes (really good offtanks) and avg dps. Plus harmony some buffs (sow, regen, etc).

well, you necro'ed a two year old thread in order to spread ranger propaganda, so let's clear up some misconceptions here

Originally Posted by fennixad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ranger are one of the best class in group

if you don't mind the hybrid exp penalty.

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nice cc

root parking isn't referred to as "ghetto CC" because it's fabulous

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slow

rangers do not innately have slow (unless you actually meant snare)

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slow(epic (sic)

this is insanely difficult to obtain and unreliable at best

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self haste (epic)

this is item haste, not spell haste, and every class in the game has access to item haste. the only classes at this point that can boast self haste are monk and bard.

Originally Posted by fennixad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

heals to drop ench aggro on trains

the amount healed by ranger heals as negligible at best. as a direct result, the amount of aggro gained by ranger heals is also negligible at best.

Originally Posted by fennixad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

best aggro makes (really good offtanks)

they do have decent aggro from spells, but cannot take a hit. they wear chain at best and gain defensive skills late. ranger disciplines make them reliable raid tanks for a pull, but it's short lived. i remember a strat we had on live to use rangers to tank VS, but it was a rotation of ranger after ranger after ranger once they died as soon as their disc wore off.

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makes (really good offtanks) (sic)

no. see above.

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harmony

yes, rangers can be good outdoor pullers, but druids have the same spells without the hybrid penalty and can do everything else mentioned so far better. bards, paladins, or SKs can split pull without the zone limitations, and enchanters, monks, clerics, and necros can split pull without zone limitations or the hybrid penalty.

Originally Posted by fennixad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

some buffs (sow

at 39

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regen

at 55

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etc

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rangers are the most poorly implemented class in everquest until the introduction of AA's in luclin. there's really no more discussion necessary. the jack of all trade, master of none title is reserved for bards.

i wouldn't go so far as to say it's a liability to have a ranger in your group, but if you don't mind the exp penalty and need another melee without any special attacks and spells that have very little effect... well, i cannot think of any situation it would be desirable to have a ranger at this point.

druids have much better heals while still having the adaptability, monks/bards are much better pullers, war/sk/pal are much better tanks, rogues/monks are much better melee DPS

ranger is undisputedly the worst class. period.

plus, it doesn't help the ranger image when fennixad is just constantly AFK in groups