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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad
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Your entire argument is predicated on the idea that the atrocities you mention came because of the secular shift in the same way that the advances hitchens mentions, which I dispute, and I have said why. Everything follows from that, which is false.
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on the contrary, my entire argument is that the atrocities hitchens is so eager to ascribe to religion were not in any way diluted or lessened by a secular shift
i'm not saying secularism caused the atrocities of the 20th century. i'm saying a shift away from state religion and toward secular government did nothing to curb them. whether it was done for zeus, jesus, allah, the proletariat, aryan nation, or freedom didn't really impact the scope or magnitude of crimes against humanity
06-05-2013, 05:26 PM
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