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Old 03-27-2013, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
dont put words in my mouth. i said R99 is not a RZ emulation, and i said that if you dont like grinding and leveling that EQ was not the game for you. also, i never said there was no purpose to PVP, what i said was that "there is no in game purpose to form roaming ganksquads" as in there's no in game reward (ie: no INGAME PURPOSE, because it was posted that Nihilum doesnt actively form roaming gangsquads),
Yes i might have overstated how much i dislike PVE, because i dont mind some PVE, i can even enjoy it. My gripe is how much were forced to PVE for such a small % of time spent vs PVP, which is why im saying youre paraphrashing for "If you want a server like Rallos Zek, where PVP happened alot more than here, look for a new game." I explained this thoroughly in the part where i talk about how it takes 20mins of running/buffing to get to pvp and then it lasts 2 mins because people just dont wanna eat xp death.

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i'll stop seeing it as griefing people off the server when it stops griefing people off the server. if they are enjoying it, they dont petition and then never log back in. the ones that do enjoy it, dont petition. newsflash, not everybody is "trippin balls" or "smokin bowls" as u so colorfully stated.
Allrite, you talk about reading comprehension, thats a lack of reading comprehension right there. Im not saying people are enjoying themselves right now, im saying they hypothetically would if pvp picked up when xp loss in pvp is gone and you couldnt get xp griefed by twinks. Major difference, you misinterpreted me. Im trying to paint you a picture of how fun it was to play on Rallos and how we could hypothetically have the same thing happening here. Im actually agreeing that people are getting griefed off the server, its pretty clear from my recent posts i understood this. IM getting griefed off the server, not because im dying too much, but because im getting bored the fuck out.

As an example of that hypothetical situation, heres what id probably do on a no xp loss situation where the population is healthy enough to sustain non-empty zones at the lower brackets (which is what i think we would stimulate with this kind of server setup): I would start or join a guild in the Rallos Zek spirit on my alt, an anti-pk guild to protect the new blood that is coming to the server so they enjoy themselves more and make the population snowball into even bigger numbers because word is getting around that the server is fun as fuck to play on. I know theres a significant portion of the pop that gets its rocks off griefing noobs off the server, so i wouldnt run out of pvp targets to engage. Strictly a lowbie alt for a pure fun, pvp for hours thing.

Shit, im relogging right now after a month hiatus just by typing this, with the glimmer of hope that this is what we could potentially have [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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there is no "whatever goes in stays in rule" dunno where u got that as countless things have changed and will continue to change (ie: added global ooc, lowered xp bonus, guard assist, xp loss on pvp, pvp text, having casters not repop with mana) and whatever else we have in the works. and the next time you post anything about BRing im suspending u for 3 days for trolling. ive addressed that already.
Id fetch the Rogean quote if you werent so condescending and insulting, but youre right, things did change after the server went past beta. I meant to say it wouldnt hurt to loosen it up a bit so we can give it a try.

So, it comes to this. If you want to debate the pros and con if what you think would improve the server, ill paint this as trolling and ill ban you. Its regrettable that you wanna have the last word that bad in what should be a open discussion about what works or not. Because the server needs it. I see a bunch of troll posts every day and my attempt at giving an articulated, non-hostile feedback for improving the server is the one you choose to pick on? Im trying to make a solid case for ditching xp loss in case there is still some doubts about it, because i think itll exponentially help the server grow.


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Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
and im done responding to any more of your nonsense until you post something thats actually grounded in fact, and not just fabricated on a whim because you were mad/bad/sad on whatever day.
Again its pretty sad that youre trolling my input, being condescending and insulting just because you wanna get the last word. I made quite the effort to stay civil and provide some insights into what i think is wrong with the server instead of simply saying"God this server fucking sucks, fucking clueless devs and clueless ruleset" out of frustration, which im guilty of doing sometimes. Your dismissive attitude and response is not something id describe as a sign to people that the input they are taking the time to give is being thought about seriously. I might be hot headed and throw insults around once in a while, but im not the one who accepted the responsibility you have, you should be a bit more restrained than me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] For the server's sake.

I think what the server also needs is kind of an olive branch, with acknowledgements that mistakes were made on both sides / hard honest assessment of the last year and a half so that the broken player/dev communication can be re-instated and give the server a second chance of sorts. From devs AND players, the players who give a shit about having a fun EQ server to play on long term and not just think about your need to keep the status quo like it is so you can zerg your PVE loot at the detriment of a healthy and growing server population or how fun it is to grief people off the server. I think were at the make or break point of the server, which is why im bothering to type all these letters. I do think its awesome that some coders decided to make this server happen, or else i wouldnt bother.

Im trying to "atone for my sins" here with my input and being honest that my attitude is too belligerent sometimes.
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