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Old 06-30-2010, 08:18 PM
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I'm posting from my phone so ill be very brief. I find it fascinating how ones definition is singularly focused on one issue, yet some would define liberty as persuing happiness and success, with or without a weapon, yet not hinge their definition on the ability or carry a full auto assault rifle since outside all but the most utterly extreme of circumstances such a weapon acts as a method of life and liberty denier to another.
I'm not sure how that applies. I don't have the time to write up every application of liberty. I even wrote more than you did... one along the same lines to what you were replying to (my post about gun rights etc), and another in general terms.

As for liberty and happiness, they have different meanings. I assume you are referring to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". Happiness is not guaranteed, can't leave out the pursuit part. If all the same word, they would have just used one. "Success" is not a part of the founding documents. What happiness is is self-determined, or should be.

Weapons do not act as anything, people do. I'm all for open concealment, it gives the "people do" second thoughts about violating someones rights or life. But first goes liberty and then goes rights, lastly you have a government trying to take care of you of which it is incapable of doing but only harming you if anything. I live near the southern border, so full-auto would be fine by me; maybe not needed today but shit happens eventually. I should have access to that if I wish, it's a constitutional right but with no liberty any longer. Yet someone in LA can get one illegally, but law abiding citizens cant. It's cockeyed.
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