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Originally Posted by Nocturne
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I seriously don't get how you can have such poor reasoning skills. You say we don't know how the universe was created, at the same time admitting that it was created at some point. Yet you cannot make the simple leap of logic that suggests that anything that is created has a creator. You were created, therefor you have a creator. Who was your creator? Your mother and your father. The computer you're using was also created. Therefor it has a creator.
The universe was created, therefor it has a creator. The science is irrelevant in the matter. Science is merely the reverse engineering of the mechanisms which govern the physical world. Science has no jurisdiction outside of physical reality and therefor could never be used to measure anything beyond it. Since we know the universe didn't always exist, we know there is something beyond physical reality.
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Time is kind of a squishy concept that probably doesn't exist outside the scope of this universe being it's one of its dimensions and all. This isn't to say that there is an eternal god, but I am suggesting the idea that the universe has always existed, since all time would be confined to it, but I'm just pontificating. So, if the universe has always existed, then there is no need for your creator, by the logic of your arguments.