stop bringing up the founding fathers in gun arguments

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Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The stats in your link say overall violence has increased. the stats in all 3 of mine state that overall violence has remained relatively unchanged or decreased slightly.

If you're not saying the stats conflict, what are we arguing about?

Please understand that violent crimes also includes crimes where people didn't die.