stop bringing up the founding fathers in gun arguments

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Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From the University of Sydney link:


From me here:

and here:

Figure 1B and table 3 indicate that the rate of total nonfirearm
homicides increased by an average of 1.1% per year
before the introduction of the gun law and reduced by an
average of 2.4% per year after the introduction of the gun
laws

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regarding the Wilfrid Laurier University link, its conclusion seems to be focused on firearm deaths, as well. Just as irrelevant.

The study included non-firearm homicides and suicides. Suicides remain high and have slightly increased lending credence to the possibility that if you're going to off yourself, you will. Non-firearm homicides remain about the same. Since there has been a drastic drop in firearm related homicides, it's not irrelevant because overall rates have dropped.

You need to read the study and refute the statistics...not peruse the conclusions. I wanted some debate, lol.

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Australia provides a small, statistically inadequate sample. Even so, it just gets back to the point that decreasing only some types of attacks is worthless if overall murder/violence increases.

Overall murder/violence in Australia HAS NOT increased. I want to see equally valid research articles that contradict what I linked. Not shit from Fox or the Examiner or The National Enquirer.