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Old 06-08-2010, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Not as much as livestock does.
Yeah, thats a good point. I was thinking more along the lines of growing organic fruit and vegetables vs. non-organic. Non-organic crops have a higher yield than organic ones.

While we're on this point, you could say that sugar tarrifs lead to increased global hunger too. Farmers grow corn in the US to make corn syrup since its expensive to import sugar, and there is little domestic sugar production. Instead of growing corn to eat or other edible crops, farmers are just making us fat. On a more global scale, places that grow sugar cane, such as South America, are worse off due to the US not importing their sugar.

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the universe will either die of entropy or collapse, depending on who you ask. In either outcome, time and existence as we understand it will cease. One or the other (or both) are going to happen with 100% probability, and either outcome will mean the eradication of anything even vaguely resembling life in the universe, so for our purposes the difference is not significant.

Also, play around with this neat little flash animation and then come back and try to tell me anything the human race does will ever matter:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/525347
First, that flash thing was cool [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wasn't trying to say that humans matter in the grand scheme of things, or that existence ends with the end of life. If the universe consisted of only a single rock, there would still be existence as the rock needs a framework to exist in.

There are some pretty strong philosophical and physics based arguments for the eternity of existence. Philosophically, it can be argued that existence must have always existed. If there was a time before existence, how was it created? If it was God, what framework did God exist in? There must have been some existence for God, or whoever/whatever created existence, to exist in.

As for the end of existence, mass and energy must be conserved. There would be no way to destroy the energy and mass from the objects already in the universe. Therefore existence must continue, since mass and energy cannot be destroyed and the fact that they need a framework to exist in.
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