How do we get players to return to Project1999?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Greeedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By 'compete' he of course means BDA or Divinity would not engage in training as TMO would. Nor would they be as good as it even if they tried - it requires a certain amount of on-the-job experience that is lacking in those guilds.

That may be competition and it may not - point is, people seem to have very different conceptions of what competition actually is. Until we have a working definition of 'competition', extremely ambiguous posts that only lead to shit fits like this will continue.

If I recall, TMO could only 'compete' in farming lockets for the first few months that the IB/DW merger guild TR completely owned the server. When they had farmed the crap so long and were still waiting for VP to come out, people just did not log on anymore. IB could barely pull 20 people on a good night, so they merged their raids with VD to get the numbers. Honestly Alarti, I would calm down about how wonderful your guild is...whatever 'competition' means, being able to do it after the fact does not make you special in any way.

Your information is incorrect TMO started by contesting trak. While TR was still pulling 50+ members. They stopped logging in so much after we got a 14 or so Trak kill streak. TR still needed a whole lot of keys and loots from Trak. Long before this streak however but after our first trak kill....which was before the DA/TMO merber btw... we started contesting other spawns started off with about 50/50 kill count with the exception of gore as many of our members were below 60.

Anyways when TR lost their numbers after we got multiple trak kill streaks. They reformed as IB and raided with VD with raids numbers exceeding 60 and sometimes 80.

You can try to change the facts if you want. But our frontpage updates show alot of the facts.

You can call competition training all you want. But if BDA or Div wanted to compete with us even without trains, KSing or poopsocking they would have no chance. This is even admitted by BDA's members. We can mobilize at about triple the speed of any other guild on the server and that included IB or TR. I am not saying just logging in but getting from point A to B.

@falkun VP was gifted to IB. As was proved later on TMO was the dominate VP guild. IB would train us we would train them, but the only guild who got kills during the trains was TMO.
also FYI VP drops more than weapons. Robes, Crowns, Earrings, and Cloaks OH MY
The robe is BIS for many classes until Vulak, the Crown is BiS for some classes until late velious and farter for int casters. The other 2 Phara items last a good bit too.
Not to mention utility drops and other items that last well into velious off hoshkar, xygoz and such.

Further, BDA has participated in kiting mobs too i.e. Draco. Not to mention the one mob we were kiting was while waiting on a Sirran depop after you leapfrogged us and killed 2 after we killed isle 1.
Super jerk move!