TMO adds Talendor to the endangered dragon list

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Originally Posted by Xadion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VD says "We are = to ib/tr and > TMO we should get XYZ" - TMO says no we are not handing you mobs you must prove it.

From my viewpoint (as a VD in case you don't read my sig), VD did not try to claim we were better than TMO, but that we can slay any dragon TMO can. I'm not trying to downplay your effort in getting to the top, you guys busted chops, threw countless members at mobs, lost, and worked tooth and nail for your position. I see that you are at the top, you earned your place, and you do feel like sharing the top about as much as a kid wants to give up his ice cream cone. That's fine.

What VD was advocating with TMO was a rotation for the biggest poopsock of all, Trak. He's in window as much or more as he's out of window, and he's a 3-day spawn. He's just a large pain in the ass for everyone 'socking.

With respect to VP, VD wanted to continue the agreement TR/TMO had when they entered into VP for the first time. TMO claims anyone can walk into VP, but the two guilds who started in VP had:
1) a forced rotation which allowed you to obtain initial pixels without training and/or other nonsense which is legal in VP
2) a chance to hone PVE raid tactics before adding the PVP aspects (not being forced to master both at the same time)
3) a chance to set up CoH/track bots without PVP
4) a chance to explore pathing, pulling, other zone mechanics in a controlled environment (without the PVP)

Basically, VP was a PVE zone between the two guilds, and now TMO wants to claim anyone can enter and compete within it as a PVP zone, without admitting the obvious advantage they have/had. I'm not saying VD is ready to compete, I'm not saying TMO couldn't have competed if it had been PVP from day 1. But I am saying, on top of being the only guild actively raiding VP, the barrier to entry is raised higher than even TMO had when TMO entered.

The barrier for competition is to the point where its high enough that it doesn't look like anyone is going to bother to compete. Do I care that I'm not in VP? Eh, I'd like to see it. Do I think its worth the effort to get into VP? Not in the slightest. Right now, TMO is "the house". The odds are stacked in the house's favor, and anyone playing to beat the house is delusional.