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Old 01-12-2012, 03:11 PM
Nirgon Nirgon is offline
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So a screenshot of that mob dead in the Skarlon hallway with a bunch of people with no fire resist gear, after we took the strat from a member who was in the guild is not enough evidence.

You mention your opinion on the situation is irrelevant, where I believe it was entirely at your discretion outside of the rules that a public announcement was made regarding GM decisions enacted upon players/accounts/guilds. It seems that your opinion is quite relevant.

I think the answer is we regrettably have to say GMs did not monitor the kills after a bug (obvious after looking at logs) was posted. Unfortunate, but the case. Further we have to, as a community, understand that if a GM does not witness it, screen shots are irrelevant after we were told they would be. Okay, and moving on..

And in summary, the rule is if a GM does not witness, it is permitted despite contrary evidence and can expect that our shot to compete fairly is subject to spot checks (3 kills later for them, once after they report us).

I understand it is no one's "job" to watch every raid mob kill. Fair.

I understand if it's not witnessed (with great hesitation saying so because of the overwhelming evidence offered and considering our source of obtaining the exploit) that no action will be taken.

Where you lose me though, is can I really expect that on an off night if you see a log of me pulling Nagafen and only a mage and a druid killing it, that no action will be taken against me if a GM is not present?

A yes or no answer is the last nail in the coffin for many of us on that last point.
 


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