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Originally Posted by Nuk3Afr1ca
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Not all classes get resist buffs and EQ live PvP was not a forced grouping game. There's 0 reason to assume everyone has those buffs 24/7. In fact, the vast majority of people I saw PvP'ing on Sullon Zek during Velious era were soloing or duoing whether they were a melee or caster.
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You're right. Only 1/3 of the classes can buff MR on others. And a lot of the remaining can buff it self-only. You don't have to assume they have the buff 24/7 either. You do have to account for the buffs instead of just pretending they don't exist.
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Oh really? Last time I checked, that's not how EQ live PvP worked at all. You don't get to alter the game and make soloing go from viable to impossible just because you think it would be cool idea. Fuck off with that shit. People are here to play normal EQ, not your horribly balanced version of it.
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What the fuck are you talking about? Monks were never viable solo PKs in classic. Neither were warriors. Or rogues. And rangers and paladins were pretty damn low on the totem pole as well.
In fact, the closest thing you could get to "solo'ing" was sitting at the entrance of a dungeon and attacking people when they zoned in - and promptly running around a corner when they tried to cast. You have no burst damage. You have no escape mechanism. You have no movement speed. And you want to be a viable outdoors solo pk? While you're at it, ask for those VZTZ tweaks that made warriors crippling blow insta gib everyone.
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Originally Posted by Nuk3Afr1ca
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No, actually, crowd control resists were balanced fine on EQ live. You don't get to say "I think CC spells should land" then provide no justification for it. And guess what? When one ice comet does 70% of a monk's HP bar, and one ebolt does 89%, there is no fucking justification for it. It's casters paradise even if CC spells resist 100% of the time.
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Oh, ice comet and ebolt only affect monks? -1 to reasoning.
Ice Comet and EBolt equally affects everyone - yes, even other wizards will be nearly one shot by an ebolt. But hey, guess what, it was like that on live. It's pretty obvious you never played classic EQ - you're wanting to just jump into this luclin era bullshit where any random retard can be completely immune to all spells just by reaching level 50 and buying a few tradeable pieces. That's not how the game worked in classic though.
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Man up and stop being a douchebag trying to get your class upgraded when it's already powerful enough. I used to kill planes geared warriors with my naked shaman mule on VZTZ, did the same thing with a naked druid against rogues. If CC didn't land at all, I still could have done the same thing. VZTZ PvP was a complete joke, that's why I'm not playing on this server if it's anywhere similar.
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My class? Do you know what class I'm playing? Because I haven't even decided yet. You keep talking as if the resist system on VZTZ made it a caster heaven, but it's pretty obvious you never played because of how much damage melee's actually did in PvP. Sure, casters could compete - but they should rape in classic. Melee should be catching up in Kunark.
You, on the other hand, are arguing for monks and rogues to be self-sufficient immune to CC pks by the time they hit 50. Lol?
But since we're talking about classes. Any guess what class you're going to play?
-Bitches about caster damage, check.
-Bitches about not being completely immune to CC 3 weeks into the game, check.
-Bitches about snare, blind, whirl, root, earth pet root, etc EVER landing at 50, check.
-Cries about caster's being overpowered on VZTZ, check.
Actually I have no idea. I would say a masochist rogue but since you're crying about melee's being underpowered on VZTZ that would only make sense if you were using two splintering clubs or some shit on a rogue.
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I remember one time, my naked shaman mule was standing in Rivervale and I tabbed over and see Lethdar attacking me with his troll SK named Allah that has the best items in the game. I was deleveled and didn't even have ebolt and he STILL couldn't kill me. It basically ended in a draw and I'm naked with no gear on. He did manage to knock me unconscious with HT, but I stood back up and recovered.
I repeat, VZTZ PvP was terrible, horribly unbalanced, and worse than EQ live in every way. The game mechanics were a complete clown fest. I refuse to play on a server where it's easier to gank people with a naked caster than a melee with the best items in the game.
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Well, you're obviously terrible and have no concept of classic EQ or VZTZ. Being able to land roots on VZTZ didn't make it a caster server by any stretch of the imagination.
I remember one time Rexx double crippling blowed me for like 1800 damage. Good thing all these memories matter in balancing a server trying to emulate live classic!
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This DFN guy keeps talking about "grouping", he's clearly one of those idiots that thinks "PvP" is walking around in a giant group of people and attacking solo players and wants the game to be as easy as possible for him to get free, welfare kills.
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My bad. I forgot, monks and rogues are supposed to be self-sufficient solo PKs starting at birth. Are you retarded? Another terrible talking on the forums because he's just a walking screenshot in game....
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Even Lumie, who is mentally insane, was smart enough to know it's not worth playing on another VZTZ rehash. He posted he's not playing with VZTZ crowd control resists either. That halfling named Alecta in Holocaust also quit due to it. It will drive off lots of people. I know at least 5 people who won't play due to it alone.
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There's going to be people not playing for many different reasons. Quoting Lumie only hurts what little credibility you had left.
Now, I don't disagree with you that melee should be nearly CC immune - but your timetable is way fucked up out of whack. This is something melee's should be striving to reach in Kunark. Don't like it? Find a group.