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Originally Posted by Skope
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What should be taken into account, though, is that if Durison got nicked for training the rules should apply here as well, but the punishment not as harsh. Training another guild at a raid means your guild benefits and i think would consequently justify a guild-wide raid suspension, but certainly not for 2 weeks.
When a guild member cheats via SEQ/MQ they should be permabanned, no questions asked. If that guild benefited from those cheats then they too get a raid suspension. But if a member cheats, trains, dupes for his own benefit then i can't see why an entire guild would be punished, nevermind every single raiding guild on the server.
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I have no disagreement with you. I've actually commented on these specific points in a different thread. Using SEQ is an entirely different situation than aggroing mobs on a raid and training. Gwence was suspended on his monk for doing this in fear. Hell, Trystich did it to Daltheb on a draco raid. He had it recorded on FRAPS.
Nobody asked that they be raid suspended for those offenses. Appropriate actions were taken against the accounts. In this situation though we have precedent that has already been established by Rogean and Nilbog. If an officer/tracker/raid leader, ie someone in a position of leadership with a guild is caught hacking, the entire guild suffers as a result.
A minimum punishment for Perun using ShowEQ on competitive raids should a 2 week raid suspension for TR/IB. Period.