Bring back the Dark Men of Odus

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by CrazyPro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not assigning new meaning, I'm pointing out that people could interpret it in problematic ways. Saying "dark men" isn't automatically racist, I never said it was, but given the context of it being the guild name for an Erudite-only guild, why would you possibly want to put what could be seen as a racial descriptor in the guild name?

Who cares about skin color? Just call them Erudites. <Erudites of Odus>, easy. This interpretation of the name "Dark Men of Odus" is pretty much the same as if it was called "Black People of Odus", and do you not see how that name could be problematic?

And therein is yet another problem with the argument. Anyone can interpret anything as negative, but that doesn't make them right.

Labeling problematic speech that wasn't problematic was one of the first steps the Leninist party took in controlling the public with setting up communism is Russia in the 20th century.

A little bit of history goes a long way in seeing the same ideological arguments reused today to the same misleading and dangerous effects.

Under your logic why call them Erudites, just call them humans. Scratch that, that's offensive to anyone not human, just call them people.

Scratch that, people is too generic of a term to bipedal creatures, call them entities.


The argument is insane, misleading, and dangerous.


Now since you've admitted that saying Dark isn't racist and has no racist connotation, then you've just admitted there is nothing wrong with the term, and therefore is completely okay to use.

Thank you for at least admitting it.

DMO will be back.