Velious Solo/Duo Challenge Official Thread (and Trio/Group)

[loramin]

I don't see consensus yet on clickies or ranks, so I haven't tried to summarize the discussion on them, but it seems like the mob/tier list is mostly uncontroversial, which is great! If no one objects, everything on the list without red text after it could go onto the wiki tomorrow.

As for the red stuff, I'm sure everyone here can come to a reasonable agreement on it, and then everything can go into the wiki.

Here's are the "controversies" I see so far (plus I added one of my own). Apologies if I missed anything.

Solo Master:
* level 52-54 Western Wastes Dragons (minus Bufa/Nintal/Espora/Gangel/Quoza) and Ice Burrower
These dragons are single-pullalble (I was unclear if this meant the poster felt that should change the tier of these mobs, or not) - DSM
Ice Burrower in contention as too easy for this tier - DSM
* Laoch Uljux / Laoch Yubtin / Laoch Zalbryn / Elder Kalur / Elder Kajind / Elder Hajnix / Tri Velic / A Kromzek Spy
* level 56 Wakening Land priests / Mist Panther / Shamus Aghllsews
* all level 55-56 MOB in Dragon Necropolis
* Yvolcarn
* Vores the Hunter / Kardakor / Gnomish Deserter
* A siren priestess / An Enthralled Molkor
* A4 Brenn+Grenn / TwentyTwo (A4 version) / EightySix / A hedge wizard (might need to be a tier higher, can't remember if any can be solo aggroed)
* all unnamed level 54-57 Plane of Growth MOB
* all level 53 Icepaw in Velk's Lab / Any level 55-56 MOB in Velk's Lab
* all level 55-56 MOB in Kael (certain MOB's probably need to be a tier higher because of pull difficulty)
* Tserrina Syl'Tor (must obtain each dungeon key on your own for it to count)
The dungeon key thing sounds out of scope of the challenge to me; the solo artist challenge is about doing cool solo fights, not nit-picking how people get to the fight, and this isn't the solo self-found challenge (we don't make people solo earn any of the other items they bring) - Loramin

Solo Grandmaster/Duo Master:
* level 56-58 Western Wastes Dragons that don't C-heal or Chaos Breath, plus Bufa/Nintal/Espora/Gangel/Quoza, plus Stronghorn / Tantor / Breezeboot
I don't think Tantor or Stronghorn should be on the list ... They do not summon, so you can kite them - DSM
* Laoch Yailin / Laoch Jaklor / Quadrix Velic / Supreme Laochsmith Psorin / Eldriaks Fe`Dhar / Ralgyn
* A corrupted unicorn
* level 59-60 named Rats in Dragon Necropolis
* Chief Kalan
* all level 57-61 MOB in Thurgadin/Icewell, except the Royal Guardsmen
* An icy servant / Fellspine / A neriad weaver
* Plane of Mischief puppets (aside from Bristlebane) / My Right Hand
* Galiel Spirithoof / Ordro / Sarik the Fang / Grahl Strongback / Tunarean Earthmelder / A thifling lord / An entoling essence channeler / A Serene Forest Spirit
* A Crystal Destroyer / Failed Experiment
* all level 57-58 MOB in Kael (certain MOB's probably need to be a tier higher because of pull difficulty)
We need to figure out the "certain mobs" part
* all level 59-62 MOB in the entry areas of Temple of Veeshan that don't have linked aggro, such as An emerald sky defender

Solo God/Duo Grandmaster:
* level 59-60 Western Waste Dragons, plus lower level Dragons that C-heal or Chaos Breath, plus Icehackle / Tsiraka / Tranala / Travala
* Laoch Zelnair plus any level 58+ Loach MOB in Skyshrine / Lawyla / Jualicn / Oglard / Talnifs / Talon Velic / Lignark / Zaldin Fe`Dhar
* Phenocryst / Rolandal
* Vilefang / A Chetari Packrat / A Chetari Hoarder
* Lodizal
* Captain Stonefist
* Grand Historian Thoridain / Royal Guardsmen in Icewell Keep
* A Siren Templar
* Ferjeneror / Lithiniath / Bristlebane puppet
* A Phase Puma / A guardian power / An abstruse phantasm
* Tpos Icepaw / Gregendek Icepaw / Khelkar Icepaw / Bledrek+Bled / Kerdelb+Kerd
Gregendek Icepaw is too easy for that tier - Danth
Zura agrees; looks like there's consensus this one should move down
* all level 60-65 MOB in Kael (certain MOB's probably need to be a tier higher because of pull difficulty)
* all level 59-62 MOB in the entry areas of Temple of Veeshan that have linked aggro

Duo God:
* Level 62-66 Western Wastes Dragons
* A Huge Gargoyle Guard / A Huge Golem Sentry / Placlis / The Seer
* Queen Raltaas / Vaniki / Neb
* Seneschal Aldikar (Icewell Keep)
* Taskmaster Abyott
* Level 60-61 named mermaids in Siren's Grotto
Helsia mindreaver is soloable (and so belongs on a lower tier) - PatChapp
* Keeper of the Glades / Undogo Digolo / Ancient Totem
* all Level 66+ MOB in Kael (minus raid targets)
* various Temple of Veeshan encounters to be decided
"Various" needs to be determined

Finally, just a general comment, there's a lot of "all mobs ..." entries. When we put this in the wiki, I think it'd be ideal to spell those mobs out, so each one has a link people can click on to see what they're going to solo.