JBB, is it really that good?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not trying to "gotcha" you, bro. I want to understand what you mean.

I also never said that Torpor is exclusively for Cannibalize.

What I was saying, is that in my 2 years of experience as a level 60 shaman with Torpor: I don't see a good time to use JBB in a fight like this, unless I'm not tanking.

8s is more than 1 tick, and each tick is important in these fights. So if I had to choose between
using up 1.3 ticks on a JBB cast,
or a few Cannibalize,
or a re-slow,
or refreshing DoTs,
or casting a new Torpor
-- JBB would be the last thing on my list.

And from the fights I've had,... If I ever have downtime in my spell rotation, I Cannibalize. If I was too low HP to Cannibalize, wait a tick for Torpor to heal 300HP and then start Cannibalizing for the next Torpor.

And for levelling: JBB can break a root. Which is why I stopped using mine when I got epic at level 54. Much easier to root park 4 mobs and epic DoT them down simultaneously than it is to slow tank a mob and JBB spam. And no downtime with Root rotting, since you can Cannibalize and bandage while the mobs are rotting.

So, I agree with the consensus of most shaman who have reached 60 on p99, that JBB is basically a powerlevel from 45-52, but then it has diminishing returns the further you get into the 50s. So much so, that most shaman will sell their JBB after getting epic. (Or to help fund a Child's Tear MQ)

I appreciate that you are not trying to gotcha me.

I am saying there are times to use JBB in difficult fights, because you cannot always Cannibalize. The issue is you keep emphasizing that you prefer to Cannibalize during downtime. That is not always a good strategy on difficult fights where you can be damage spiked. When waiting for Torpor to tick you back up, you can use JBB. There are times where you need to heal more than 300 HP to get back to safe HP levels after getting damage spiked. You might as well JBB if you can't Cannibalize and all your DoTs/Debuffs are applied.

For leveling, you don't root/rot with JBB. You face tank with JBB. That is how you solve the root breaking problem when leveling with JBB. Obviously if you do happen to have Epic while leveling, root rotting 4+ mobs is going to be more efficient. However, not everybody has Epic while leveling, especially if they only have enough money for either Torpor or Epic, and not both.

Please stop claiming you can't use JBB to level quickly from 45-60. It worked really well for me. You have no evidence to suggest JBB falls off in the 50s, so I am not sure why you keep insisting. You simply stopped using it because you got Epic, and created this assumption. It's better to save for Torpor first, and get Epic if you can afford it. It is not a good idea to get Epic first to level, and then be broke at 60 and not have Torpor.