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Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not trying be rude, but perhaps instead of spamming the bug forums with boat loads of anecdotal information, you should instead try to find official patch notes or eq developer posts that back up your claims.

Firsthand accounts from various links have been cited on numerous occasions, by players and staff members alike, sometimes with those being the only source of information used. There simply aren't enough details in three years of patch notes or developer posts for both to be the only trusted sources.

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even verified unedited log files would be better than spamming random stories from the deep web.

The more good information is shown, the farther from imperfect it becomes. In the absence of what is ideal, there is what is available, Titanium client included.

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The plural of anecdote is not data.

https://blog.revolutionanalytics.com...after-all.html

April 06, 2011
The plural of anecdote is data, after all
I've used the quotation "The plural of anecdote is not data" in various talks over the years, never knowing the original source. I searched the usual places (though clearly not hard enough!), but never figured out whom it should be attributed to. So I was pleased to learn that John Myles White had discovered the source: Raymond Wolfinger (presumably the political scientist from Berkeley). This attribution comes in this 2004 email from Fred Shapiro, editor of the Yale Dictionary of Quotations:

I [Shapiro] e-mailed Wolfinger last year and got the following response from him:

"I said 'The plural of anecdote is data' some time in the 1969-70 academic year while teaching a graduate seminar at Stanford. The occasion was a student's dismissal of a simple factual statement -- by another student or me -- as a mere anecdote. The quotation was my rejoinder. Since then I have missed few opportunities to quote myself. The only appearance in print that I can remember is Nelson Polsby's accurate quotation and attribution in an article in PS: Political Science and Politics in 1993; I believe it was in the first issue of the year."

So I've been using the quotation wrong all this time! I think I'm going to stick with "The plural of anecdote is not data", though: the word "anecdote" to me suggests information surrendered, not collected, and it's the implication of reporting bias that makes the quote so apposite for statisticians.

Linguist List: Re: "Plural of anecdote is data" (Ray Wolfinger)

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just, because you have found a bunch of random people stating they saw such and such thing, does not make it true.

Circumstantial evidence is admissible in (elf) court.

All of that aside, instead of posting direct replies in these threads, just fire away a private message.

https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19

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With the new round of beta testing, this is highly relevant.

Please make sure to include all the information you can about an issue.

I'm wasting a lot of time reading posts with no research or links.

Thanks.