How are Shamans without the expensive spells and items?

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a number of issues to address here:

1. The problem is there are many different opinions on this forum as to what "factual" and "subjective" are. Some people on this forum seem to believe the Math of how much HP you get per hour via regeneration is not "factual". Because of this, a lot of people will accuse me of "mixing fact and subjectivity". Usually when they say this, it is actually wrong, and they are trying to claim subjectivity where it isn't subjective. Can you give an actual quote of me doing this?

2. I am completely fine with conceding points. Again, can you give me an example? Often times the person is actually wrong, so conceding isn't the proper course of action. Should we just let people continue saying wrong information because it is "derailing" the conversation by not letting them get away with it?

3. The people who are throwing out the insults and trolling people are bloating the thread, not myself. They can choose to not troll, and refuse to do so. The reason why they keep posting so much nonsense is to bury what they don't like under said trolling and insults, so people can't find their opinions.

4. It is silly for you to claim that me talking about my past experiences "makes the thread about myself". I never start these conversations where people just come in and derail the conversation with things like "don't talk to this player". Don't blame me for what other people do.

5. You can farm 20k killing guards from 20-45 as a casual player, even today. Anybody who says otherwise is just wrong. If you can play 1-2 hours a day and farm just 50 platinum, you will have 18kpp. That is quite casual, and very achievable.

6. The reason why I bring up what I did in the past is because it is an example of a casual player like myself successfully getting enough platinum to afford JBB while it was still a good leveling tool. I specifically tell people my method is no longer viable so they don't inevitably ask what I did.

7. Finally, people don't really understand what "moving the goalposts" means either. It's easy to think I do that since people keep accusing me of it, but please give examples, and I will be able to show you I did not. Usually people think I "move goalposts" because they skim my replies and miss things.

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