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from what can be gleaned the original posts suggest that charming giants was common enough practice on vindi...only difference being that here they are used for DPS whereas in classic apparently they were sent in to tank/ramp
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Velious is when Enchanters began to charm in a way similar to P99. Also they probably weren't used for DPS because it took dedicated teams of players to control charmed mobs. Enchanters charmed late in classic and charmed Fear mobs but specifically mention the dedicated effort of about 5 people to keep things under control and the Enchanter alive. Like I mention above MR is a big factor that seems to be missing on P99 for these mobs.
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there are still a lot of discussions dating back to the early days with enchanters stating flatly that charmed pets were superior to their summoned versions
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No, that quote said that your pet won't be as good and the best thing you have is a charmed pet. It didn't say a charmed pet is better.
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if the target was not dead and charm broke, some simply advised enchanters to run for the zoneline
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Correct and fits with outdoor zones being where Enchanters used charm. There wasn't solo Enchanters in SolA camping kindle at level 30 using charm on live. It was viable outdoors where you could dump bad situations and run speed buffs were a requirement.
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And either some of the pet commands weren't working properly at that point or were implemented at a later point in classic.
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A lot of pet things weren't working properly. We do know that fine steel dagger to reduce delay was working, and is classic, but is nerfed on P99 whereas Enchanters killing 5 blue mobs at the same time by themselves in a dungeon was not happening.
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It seems to have taken a while, but people were figuring out how to use/abuse charm during classic and openly talking about it.
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I didn't read too far but it sounds like they are discussing Bard charm which actually worked, they had the run speed buff to use it more than Enchanter did, and was clasically always the more overpowered charm whereas on P99 Bards are told not to charm.
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/bard_charm.php
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Prior to kunark, bards were at minimum the equal of enchanters in charm, and in most situations, better. The bard charm cap is 51 at level 39, 51 at level 50...and still 51 at level 60.
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Thott from Afterlife stating Bards were at the MINIMUM equal to Enchanters in charm and in most situations better. Does that sound like P99? He is lamenting the state of Bards being ignored as Charm became more powerful for Enchanter. As I've said, Enchanter was literal garbage in classic and was the most bugged and least played class. All backed by in era posts including a Sony released poll of classes they did to find out who needed to be nerfed. Enchanter was at the bottom of the list and no one played it. It wasn't because they didn't know how CHA worked.