14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

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Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is a huge problem with collapsible batons. in any bodily location where they are non-lethal, they are absolutely ineffective, in any location where they could stop an assailant, they are like 95% lethal.

I've heard cops say that the best use for their baton is to scratch their back while wearing their vests.

If you wanna use a collapsible baton to stop a person, you have to crack their skull, eye socket, etc. It doesn't do shit against knee/elbow joints, it doesnt have the inertial mass to do so.

It's supposed to be a non-lethal takedown weapon, but it doesn't do jack shit unless lethal force is applied. and it cannot lock down an arm or a leg any better than arms or hands would. Moreover, given its length and proximity to the assailant, it can easily be taken from you.

Yeah its made of metal, so what? its hollow, it doesnt have the weight needed to knock someone to the ground unless they are off balance.

look up some youtube vids from actual martial arts instructors, the collapsible baton is useless by its own design. I'd go back to the side handle "T baton".

Time to invest in auto-reloading tazers, with variable voltage.

Yeah. You need lenght or mass and then we are at macequest. I agree with the 95% aspect.