On its dying breath, <Criot> cries enough to turn blue into Dice simulator 2022

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Originally Posted by SantagarBrax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ This guy understands.

The interactions between guilds in the raid scene, however bad one thinks it is, is significantly better than the alternatives that lessen interactions between players.

GM's got it wrong with this Dice Roll based on that fact alone. Where's the actual discussion from CSR and the raiding guilds towards a viable solution, pooling all the knowledge and expertise that this server has to offer and brainstorming up a better way?

Joria makes a post and a short number of days later just an arbitrary "we're changing to this model". No real discussion to be had, no involvement from those that it affects. Why not have this discussion and brainstorm first?

Simply wrong.

Again, like many people have already said, the amount of people who enjoy guild vs guild competition and interaction on the server is INCREDIBLY small. They are just very loud. The vast majority of raids, even now, don't have guild vs guild interaction and even within the ones that do the majority of the people raiding for those guilds don't interact with the other guild.

The vast vast majority of p99 raiders just want to hang out with their bros and kill shit. You can tell which guild is full of people who want unclassic competition and which one doesn't by which guilds actually enjoy clearing Growth. One guild does it as fast as possible, in the past even breaking the zone mechanics to bypass the time required to clear the zone and kill Tunare. Other guilds enjoy clearing Growth because some of the most fun and funny guild conversations happen during those times. It's a perfect microcosm of the opinions and attitudes of various guilds.

The most popular and successful MMO's to have ever existed have some kind of instanced content. You can't keep saying your preference of how to play an MMO is the best because the numbers don't back you up. Luclin - PoP - Ldon was WAY more popular and has WAY more subscribers than Classic - Kunark - Velious. Those are verifiable facts. We can't measure any subjective comment like "significantly better". You maybe enjoy the C/K/V era better than L/P/L but you are in the minority. Which is fine. There's nothing wrong with being in the minority of people who liked a thing better than something else that's way more popular. The problem comes with trying to push this narrative that p99 population would tank or that Ckv era is "significantly better" than the LPL era. Any measurable metric does not back up that conclusion.

Unfortunately the GM's and Dev's have made a TON of changes with absolutely zero conversation or care what the player base thinks. Including a ton of non-classic changes. Bag limits were working very well at 2/3, they were split just about even between the top 2 guilds. What should've happened was that those same 2/3 bag limits should've been extended to EVERY OTHER raid boss in the game. If that happens I'm not sure you have people even bothering to worry about whether someone is or isn't cheating via scripts in kael or other places. Yet the bags were changed to 4/5 for no reason, with no conversation, and no explanation, and that is as big as any other reason why one guild has separated from the pack and begun snowballing all content and sometimes hits 150+ people on raids.

Nearly every problem currently on the server is result of someone in charge making a change that they didn't think through or because of inattentiveness and not wanting to do the job they volunteered to do.

Honestly the best thing that could happen for p99 in the future is if they continue to have blue and green be separate and designate one of them to be the competitive server and one the rotation server and allow xfers from any server to any server for a limited period of time. In the future if they want to make a new "green" server they can remake as teal from scratch and at the end of teal timeline they allow people the choice of flushing out to the rotation or competition server.

I don't think that will happen but it would be the absolute best thing the box owners could do for the health of all servers involved and for the sanity of GMs.