Probably time for a Kyle Rittenhouse thread.

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This case has been so super charged by politics and by race the core issues have been forgotten.

In the media and in apps this case has become left vs right; second amendment vs gun control; so called ‘patriots’ vs BLM. So lets attempt to break this down to its most simple form so we can see what really needs to be analyzed here.

I notice an official sign from the police department that says traveling down main street is an arrest-able offense. So this morning I was walking to work down the main street of my town. I ignore the sign. And observed a few individuals spray painting cars; tagging them so to speak. Wasn’t my car; wasn’t my neighbor’s car, they were just random cars along the side street of owners I did not know.

I approach the individuals and order them to stop. The individuals flip me the bird. So I pulled out my gun and I told them to stop. One of the individuals, looked at me, dropped his spray paint can and charged at me.

He was not armed with a knife or with a gun or with anything else. He did not have anything else in his hand and I could not see anything else.

But he was menacing.
I was frightened.
I felt threatened.
I feared for my life.
So I fired four times.
Hitting him each time. He died.

AM I LEGALLY JUSTIFIED IN MY ACTIONS?!
Or is this murder?

1. The first issue is may I use deadly force to project those cars?

And the answer is No.

For Three simple reasons.

i. I didn’t own the cars they weren’t mine
ii. The owners of those cars did not ask me or hire me to protect those cars
iii. Those cars were not being stolen. They weren’t being taken away. They were only being defaced.

So no I cannot use deadly force to protect that property.

2. May I use deadly force to protect myself from the charging man.

And the answer is No. Why?

i. Because I provoked him. It is called Provocation! (Even with a stand my ground law. The exception is that when you do something to provide a situation you cannot then use deadly force to defend yourself. Neither from the threat of force or the use of force that you provoked.)

It is as simple as that, folks.

Kyle Rittenhouse should be found guilty on all the accounts here.

1. Take race out of the matter.
2. Take politics out of the matter.
3. And just look at the facts. Use your common sense in this verdict should be easy.

Whether you think his victims deserve it has nothing to do with it.
Whether you think my family and I does or does not live 20 miles away, has nothing to do with it.
Whether you think I am a medic, has nothing to do with it.

I was being a vigilante and as a result I killed someone.