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Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you didn't read the evidence that was provided, just like you didn't thoroughly read the evidence you yourself provided; if you had, you might not have posted it in the first place.



I've only really been critical of your sources and claims; without credible sources, you've continued to repeat the claims, often without any variation whatsoever. If the original post had contained questionable information in favor of mask use, it would have elicited similar replies. Who was the person that first mentioned littering as being one obvious negative of (disposable) masks? Rhetorical question.



This isn't actually a term, though at least one other person on the internet used it so maybe it will catch on.



https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05...id-19-vaccine/

Texas GOP state senator urged use of unproven hydroxychloroquine treatment for COVID-19. Now he's spreading doubt about vaccines.
In a period of sagging vaccination rates — particularly among staunch conservatives — state Sen. Bob Hall used his platform to promulgate debunked anti-vaccine conspiracies and push claims that have largely been eschewed by the medical community.



Source? Also, who's they? Because the CDC itself doesn't do the actual counting.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/factcheck/2021/05/06/fact-check-covid-19-deaths-dont-include-everyone-20-days

The post’s insinuation that coronavirus vaccines cause death is wrong — and so is the claim about how COVID-19 deaths are counted.

Local medical examiners, coroners and physicians decide whether COVID-19 contributed to someone’s death. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which maintains a tally of COVID-19 deaths, has guidance on how officials should fill out death certificates, but that guidance does not include a 20-day rule. False claims that the U.S. is padding coronavirus statistics have circulated since the early days of the pandemic.

The CDC gets data on COVID-19 deaths through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), which gets its data from death certificates filed in state vital registration offices. When a local medical examiner, physician or coroner lists the coronavirus as a cause of death on a certificate, the CDC counts it as a COVID-19 death.



Source?

The CDC director did however say...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...inated-change/

The nation’s top public health official on Sunday defended her agency’s abrupt reversal on wide-ranging mask recommendations, saying that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had weighed new data before announcing that Americans who had been vaccinated could go without masks.



Because of...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...-vaccines.html



Wikipedia...still more credible than retracted articles from sources known for promoting New Agey pseudoscience.

https://youtu.be/n5OmqA5t6lI

In regards to the financial incentive to stamp covid diagnosis and treatment, it applied to patients with Medicare. There was a federal program that paid hospitals around $13,000 for each Medicare patient with covid, and $39,000 for treatment of covid patients with ventilators

There was speculation that this could cause billing fraud due to financial incentives. While the fact checkers could not dispute the claim of the payments as false (the payments are true), the fact checkers report there has not been billing fraud discovered

Some more info: “ Ask FactCheck weighed in April 21: "The figures cited by Jensen generally square with estimated Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations, based on average Medicare payments for patients with similar diagnoses."

Ask FactCheck reporter Angelo Fichera, who interviewed Jensen, noted, "Jensen said he did not think that hospitals were intentionally misclassifying cases for financial reasons. But that’s how his comments have been widely interpreted and paraded on social media."

Ask FactCheck's conclusion: "Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting."
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...us/3000638001/)


As someone that works in healthcare, I can promise that billing fraud is rampant in this field, especially fraud of federal insurance payments. The fact it was not discovered doesn’t mean much, most likely it wasn’t even investigated

To argue the other side of the coin:

To claim that a death due to cardiac arrest being labeled a covid death is inaccurate isn’t entirely true. It’s all about causation. The most common (based on my reading) cause of death from Covid other than pulmonary issues was cardiac arrest. Now while this tended to affect obese people who already were vulnerable to cardiac arrest, in many scenarios the heart attack could have been directly caused by Covid’s effect on the body

A good example of this would be the dad of MMA fighter and legend Khabib Nurmagamenov, someone I’m a huge fan of (enough to hopefully spell his name correct from memory). Khabib’s dad was slightly overweight but not obese. He had a bad COVID infection and died from brain injuries, stroke, and cardiac arrest in one of the top hospitals in Russia getting top of the line medical care. His death was listed as due to COVID, because he wouldn’t have suffered that heart attack and stroke had COVID not been wrecking his body. So for people like him, it should still be listed as a death due to COVID

More info: https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports....133129448.html

And for any khabib fans, a sad homemade video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qhT25r7OR3w