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Old 04-20-2021, 05:33 PM
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Random Clinical Trial showing that masks don't do anything to prevent the spread of the common cold

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/
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Results: Thirty-two health care workers completed the study, resulting in 2464 subject days. There were 2 colds during this time period, 1 in each group. Of the 8 symptoms recorded daily, subjects in the mask group were significantly more likely to experience headache during the study period (P < .05). Subjects living with children were more likely to have high cold severity scores over the course of the study.

Conclusion: Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.

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None of the studies we reviewed established a conclusive relationship between mask ⁄ respirator use and protection against influenza infection. Some useful clues, however, could be gleaned. Subanalyses performed for one of the larger randomised controlled studies in a household setting found evidence of reduced rates of influenza-like illness if household contacts consistently wore the mask or respira-tor
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Randomized Clinical Trial (N95 vs Medical Mask) Influenza

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2749214

Randomized Clinical Trial (N95 vs Surgical) Influenza

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2749214
You pulled a Bart Simpson and upped the wordcount of your post with filler; a single link (N95 vs Surgical / Medical Mask) would have sufficed. But on to the contents...

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Conclusions and Relevance Among outpatient health care personnel, N95 respirators vs medical masks as worn by participants in this trial resulted in no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
These people aren't likely to be interacting in the same enclosed area for extended periods of time. The argument for mask-use is hinged on the claim that it lessens the risk of spread when groups of people are indoors, which would explain why prisons saw an uptick in cases when the outside population did not.

https://www.lohud.com/story/news/202...an/4180256001/

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The overall statewide positivity rate in New York is around 6.5%, according to the governor's office. In New York prisons, the positivity rate is 16.5%, according to the Correctional Association of New York, an independent organization that serves as a monitor under state law.
Also, in the link you included above, there was no mention of the all-important non-mask wearing group which is a prerequisite for any link you post since you claim that "masks don't do anything".

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Spoiler Alert - Masks don't do anything

Stop trying to derail the thread with your Koch nonsense.
Arnold Palmer Alert - Your mantra isn't doing anything.

A debate ought to involve other related and contributing factors without either distracting from the main topic. If you cannot see where the two are related or where one contributes to the other, than the debate will not be a compelling.

As you were the one who made this overtly political from the start, and continue to do so, you only have yourself to thank. I would have preferred to ignore the politics of the day altogether.

However, it's interesting how when the underpinnings of your argument are associated with arguments of other like-minded individuals, suddenly politics is off-limits. It's okay if you wield politics against others repeatedly, and for no other purpose than to feel good/right, but the moment that political argument is turned on its head or explored more thoroughly, you demand the thread stay on topic. Which is it? Are politics allowed to be discussed or not?
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