Hardest MMO / Video Game besides EQ?

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if you don't mind it being more twitch-based, the Dark Souls series will challenge you

I've only played DS3, had friends who've played the first 2 and the bloodborne versions

The biggest challenge in the souls games seems to come from the DLC's, if you didn't want to shell out a bit of extra $ on those, then I wouldn't even recommend the game without them. The developers really crank up the difficulty on DLC bosses and levels

I know the dragon Midir from DS3 took me like 20ish attempts, I remember almost pulling my hair out in frustration, tired and tilted at 3am trying to kill him before I had to go to work in 4 hours. I ended up not getting him and having to go to work all pissed off, got him later that week. Sister Friede would have taken quite a few attempts too, but I found a way to cheese her. The zone that Midir is in is so hard at first I almost wondered if it was even meant to be beaten, but eventually I got the hang of it after lots of trial and error

I believe one of the all time hardest bosses in any video game series ever though isn't from Dark souls 1-3, it's Orphan of Kos from bloodborne DLC. There's also some fire demon who is supposed to be harder than any Souls boss as well in Bloodborne series

Tactics Ogre, FF Tactics and especially Ogre Battle, are some of my favorite RPG's, but I wouldn't call any of them all that hard. The only hard part of any early game RPG I would say would be trying to do the Ancient Cave killing all mobs including the ones on the last few floors that are harder than any in the rest of the game, without using cheese tactics like the instant kill spear. Also beating the boss before he runs on first attempt. That's the hardest SNES era RPG challenge I'd come across