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Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The two are cut from the same cloth. In much common usage "libertarian" is simply a polite word for anarchist. It stems from the era where openly calling yourself an anarchist would get you the old-timey equivalent of deplatformed. Some self-described libertarians regard themselves as more minarchists than anarchists in that they have enough sense to accept that some governance is necessary.

Danth

A lot of libertarians I meet believe in the bill of rights, and they kind of stop there. So would every single anarchist.

But I saw that amazing rant by Anton Scalia, where he was like, "every banana republic in the world has a bill of rights, what sets America apart is our judicial, executive, and legislative branches being separate and that is protected in the constitution."

The, "gridlock of big goverment" is what the founding fathers wanted, the bill of rights wasn't necessary because of this, but it was added to appease the federalists: It is the constitution that would "protect the bill of rights" and that's what sets us apart. (And it's why the "living document" aspect works too.)

He quoted the soviet unions bill of rights, and it was ours, + an anti corruption right, and that was the country that made the KGB lol... Because they didnt have the 3 branches of goverment the way we do and a constitution that protects them.

So I believe you're right, but, I disagree that they have enough sense to accept that some governance is necessary, I would argue, most think that that governance comes from the bill of rights simply existing and the rest of our goverment just follows it, and that we should get rid of the senators and legislative beurocracy, that is "big goverment", that turns out is the only reason we follow the bill of rights in the first place.

I think a true libertarian/conservative, likes big goverment, because it means no changes. An an anarchist says "get off my property its mine! Says so in the bill of rights!"

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Idk if you watch those I dont talk to cops videos on youtube, but those are always, libertarians.