The Joe Biden Drops Out thread

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Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SOEs are less efficient players because they cater to too many masters. If we were looking to destabilize China we would want to make them rely on these so that way their private sector is hurt and less able to compete on the world market. Whether they fully own up on their end is immaterial as long as they're given incentive to rely on less efficient producers for the next 'agreement'.

Our advantage is that even though they know this they are helpless to resist. Having your own protected market segment is such a goldmine they will convince themselves they can stop.

My concern is this will take too long to destabilize China by itself. I would prefer a more direct provocation. I've been playing Harpoon for a long time now and I'm quite sure China is a paper tiger. I think if we baited them in and then showed them a good time they would have a hangin hard time splaining how come everything was done blown up real good in under an hour. I can only dream.

Anyway, I see these agreements as salvos in the war. There will never be a meeting of the minds. The only future both systems envision is one where the other doesn't exist.

Gonna have to disagree with you there on China being a paper tiger. Their defense scheme is directly managed under a cohesive set of objectives and parameters, while the US has kinda evolved into a government-sponsored profit enterprise that produces a whole lot of assets that are ineffectual in modern war.

Consider the F-35 program which has been a colossal waste of money and produced a substandard fighter with a very niche role that would probably lose to 1 or 2 F-15's, and costs more than 20 F-15's. China and Russia both have highly advanced anti-ship missiles that we are nowhere close to being able to reliably defend against. (For an interesting foray into this, read about how many British ships got trashed by primitive Argentinian exocets in the Falklands War, and then imagine hyper advanced ship-killing missiles currently employed by Russia and China). It's highly unlikely American ships would be able to operate within 1,000 miles of the Chinese coast.

China may not yet have the precision manufacturing aptitude or R&D in place to produce the truly cutting edge hardware that we make in America, but corruption in the US has produced a fighting force that is so bloated, ill-suited, and ineffectual that I'm pretty sure we'd get roflstomped the way we routinely do in wargames.

In essence, the corruption of our politics is permeating every aspect of our civilization and turning it into shit.